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Pennsylvania job market/bar exam

What is the job market in that state as a whole? Are lawyers parlance03/04/17
Cities glutted. Outside cities, economically depressed with tedandlisa12303/04/17
This sounds like pretty much every state in this country kretan18203/04/17
yep hopelesslyunemployed03/04/17
That's really too bad. It's a fairly low COL state outside t parlance03/05/17
If you want to know if it's gutted, count the law schools. napoleone03/05/17
I think the job situation has been addressed on here, so I w kramer71603/05/17
Total hearsay, but I heard as of this year you are not allow shikes03/05/17
That's useful information and much appreciated. But if I wer parlance03/05/17
It's easier to find work in central PA, as I did. Philly is dharamsala03/05/17
Do you work for the state government by any chance? kramer71603/06/17
I will starting in September. I am currently a 3L. dharamsala03/06/17
It seems you are correct. Just checked the dates for the bar kramer71603/05/17
As of 2016, you can waive into NJ after 5 years of practice e36m303/05/17
Not sure why you want to look outside the Philly/Pgh metro a pauperesq03/06/17
It's quite possible that I just need a vacation in the middl parlance03/07/17
parlance (Mar 4, 2017 - 7:48 pm)

What is the job market in that state as a whole? Are lawyers generally wanted/needed in that state? Is there a decent chance of working outside the Philadelphia and Pittsburgh metro areas? And finally, how hard is the bar exam?

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tedandlisa123 (Mar 4, 2017 - 8:15 pm)

Cities glutted. Outside cities, economically depressed with a declining older population and a lot of meth.

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kretan182 (Mar 4, 2017 - 8:53 pm)

This sounds like pretty much every state in this country

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hopelesslyunemployed (Mar 4, 2017 - 11:50 pm)

yep

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parlance (Mar 5, 2017 - 5:20 pm)

That's really too bad. It's a fairly low COL state outside the metro areas, but if there are not that many jobs out there, then that's that.

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napoleone (Mar 5, 2017 - 12:19 am)

If you want to know if it's gutted, count the law schools. You will need all of your fingers and a few toes.

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kramer716 (Mar 5, 2017 - 1:08 am)

I think the job situation has been addressed on here, so I will answer the bar exam. I took it in 08, and I used Barbri. Pennsylvania seems to have a pretty consistent pattern when it came to the essay questions, so it was pretty easy to predict what type of question was coming. I would give you specific examples, but I can't remember that far back. They may have changed the exam since I took it, though. Having said that if you invest in Barbri and stick to their schedule, then you should be fine.

There is another thread on here talking about a different bar prep service. I never heard of that particular service, but it seems to have received decent reviews. I liked having the schedule lay out a study strategy, though, so I prefer Bar Bri. But, overall the exam isn't that bad.

Also if you go for the PA bar then you may want to take the option to do the PA and Jersey bar in 3 days. A lot of the jobs in Philly require you to be licensed in PA and New Jersey.

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shikes (Mar 5, 2017 - 1:50 pm)

Total hearsay, but I heard as of this year you are not allowed to take PA/NJ together in the 3 days anymore. Didn't verify at all FWIW.

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parlance (Mar 5, 2017 - 5:22 pm)

That's useful information and much appreciated. But if I were to move to PA, I wouldn't live or work in one of the metro areas. Strongly prefer the state's vast hinterland.

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dharamsala (Mar 5, 2017 - 7:10 pm)

It's easier to find work in central PA, as I did. Philly is glutted as f*ck.

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kramer716 (Mar 6, 2017 - 4:13 pm)

Do you work for the state government by any chance?

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dharamsala (Mar 6, 2017 - 8:31 pm)

I will starting in September. I am currently a 3L.

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kramer716 (Mar 5, 2017 - 2:24 pm)

It seems you are correct. Just checked the dates for the bar exam and both Pennsylvania and New Jersey will hold it on February 21st and 22nd which would make taking both impossible.

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e36m3 (Mar 5, 2017 - 3:32 pm)

As of 2016, you can waive into NJ after 5 years of practice in PA (and a bunch of other states.

https://www.njbarexams.org/reciprocal_jurisdictions

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pauperesq (Mar 6, 2017 - 5:45 pm)

Not sure why you want to look outside the Philly/Pgh metro areas. You're going to find most of the opportunities in those two cities.

There aren't really any opportunities in the PA sticks. It's mostly a hodgepodge of solos. Government work is (DA, PD) is sparse and mostly part-time.

If Philly and Pittsburgh aren't your thing, consider one of the smaller cities (Erie, Reading, Wilkes-Barre/Scranton). Opportunities aren't great but they're much better than what you'll find in Pennsyltucky.

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parlance (Mar 7, 2017 - 1:20 am)

It's quite possible that I just need a vacation in the middle of nowhere for a week or two and that will be enough.

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