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ACS how hard to get attorney position there?

have an interview soon. administration for children's servi mrlaw03/06/17
I got offered an interview there and turned it down. I heard 3lol03/06/17
But do you have to have good grades? mrlaw03/07/17
If you got an interview you're probably past that particular 3lol03/07/17
What you mean ? Do u know if they care because mine sucked b mrlaw03/07/17
What he means - or what I would mean - is that if they cared wolfman03/07/17
But they want me to bring transcript to interview. mrlaw03/07/17
I have an interview with the ACS soon too. I don't think we maldo8303/07/17
how was your interview? mine coming up soon mrlaw03/16/17
While I am not familiar with NYC specifically, I know plenty downwardslope03/16/17
I interviewed once at ACS. Four panel interview grilling you samfriedlander203/07/17
Thanks. I have been practicing for over 12 years and still mrlaw03/07/17
Say the words "safety", "permanency", and "wellbeing" a lot. madathofstra03/16/17
To work for NYC, including ACS, DA, etc., they background ch adamb03/17/17
mrlaw (Mar 6, 2017 - 9:33 pm)

have an interview soon. administration for children's services nyc

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3lol (Mar 6, 2017 - 10:48 pm)

I got offered an interview there and turned it down. I heard from a couple of people that its a terrible place to work BUT... it is a city job!

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mrlaw (Mar 7, 2017 - 10:51 am)

But do you have to have good grades?

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3lol (Mar 7, 2017 - 10:59 am)

If you got an interview you're probably past that particular hurdle.

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mrlaw (Mar 7, 2017 - 11:03 am)

What you mean ? Do u know if they care because mine sucked but I graduated 13 years ago

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wolfman (Mar 7, 2017 - 11:07 am)

What he means - or what I would mean - is that if they cared about grades enough to ding you, they would have made you submit a transcript and dinged you on its basis before the interview. If you've been out for over a decade, and presumably practiced for some of it, what matters is your experience and how well you interview.

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mrlaw (Mar 7, 2017 - 11:11 am)

But they want me to bring transcript to interview.

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maldo83 (Mar 7, 2017 - 3:22 pm)

I have an interview with the ACS soon too. I don't think we are competing for the same position though given the fact that you've been out there for over a decade. I am applying for a relatively low level agency attorney position.

By the way, they asked me to bring my transcripts too. Mine is not good looking but honestly I don't think law school grades will play a critical role in their decision making.

Good luck!

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mrlaw (Mar 16, 2017 - 9:10 pm)

how was your interview? mine coming up soon

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downwardslope (Mar 16, 2017 - 9:45 pm)

While I am not familiar with NYC specifically, I know plenty of people who have had this type of job. Trust me, you can't be tired enough of immigration law to take this job. Just don't. I had one coworker who did it for a year and it almost killed him. Literally. He gained a ridiculous amount of weight and was already a large guy... he just didn't recover. I've been to conferences with people who do this type of work because the hosts sponsor some people from my organization to attend and it's like the children's services attorneys have been released from prison for a couple of days.

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samfriedlander2 (Mar 7, 2017 - 6:15 pm)

I interviewed once at ACS. Four panel interview grilling you on trial experience & reason you're interested in joining ACS. They want people committed to helping children in need with little to no hand holding.

FYI - I've met five ACS Attorneys and every single one sounded miserable. You'll be in Court virtually everyday and be expected to stay up to date on your ridiculously large caseload. This is not a 35 hour a week city job.

I was invited to a second round of interviews and respectfully passed. The best way to understand the difficulty of the position? Look up the number of Agency Attorney positions currently available for ACS. I'm guessing it would be around 20. I know because it was always around 20 when I searched for city jobs. Massive turnover.

With that said. Student loans are a monster so this would be my advice:

1. They want people who actually care about the mission of ACS. I'd suggest anyone interviewing take a few minutes to read the ACS website and memorize mission statements, goals and accomplishments.

2. They want people who do not need to be supervised (since caseload is massive). Mention any trial experience, ability to handle and prioritize caseload.

3. The enemy of interviews - hypotheticals. Sorry, I don't remember the particular questions I was asked but I remember several questions starting with "how would you handle...." or "if you were in X situation.."

4. I brought my transcript and it seemed clear they did not care about grades. They DID care about what classes you took. I got a dozen questions about trial advocacy, mock trial and clinics I took. i was also asked why I DIDN'T take certain courses or clinics that relate more to ACS.

5. Done any pro bono work lately? That questions surprised the hell out of me. Be ready.

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mrlaw (Mar 7, 2017 - 6:45 pm)

Thanks. I have been practicing for over 12 years and still applied to the entry level position because I am tired of immigration law. I have recent some family law experience. I think i have everything but the grades.

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madathofstra (Mar 16, 2017 - 9:49 pm)

Say the words "safety", "permanency", and "wellbeing" a lot. Other keywords: imminent danger, risk, reunification, service plan, resource.

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adamb (Mar 17, 2017 - 12:13 pm)

To work for NYC, including ACS, DA, etc., they background check you. A DA once was not an attorney, it came out years later. Now, they require birth certificate, ss card, passport, diploma, transcripts, and affidavits from non-family.

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