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Arrested for petty larceny today at a salvage yard

... marlon10/11/10
The first rule regarding talking to the police is not to tal ArnieBecker10/11/10
Do they still hang people in your town? HomelessCrackheadEsq10/11/10
Why did he drive you around the block after handcuffing you? Janitor10/11/10
My advice to you is: 1. Delete your post immediately. beeyay10/11/10
How much money should I expect to pay for the attorney? Als marlon10/12/10
You need to explain the facts of what occurred to the attorn beeyay10/12/10
The police said if the owners suspect criminal intent, they' marlon10/12/10
Incorrect and lol at a police officer ever correctly stating mississippilawyer10/12/10
Could you post a link saying so, pretty please? It's in Mic marlon10/14/10
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Why not go to the public defender's office? therewillbeblood10/12/10
Yes I did consider that, but I figured they were in general marlon10/12/10
Depends on where you are. Some public defender's offices ar therewillbeblood10/12/10
When I read the title of this thread I knew it was going to greenhorn10/12/10
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If you're in NYC/LI I'll handle this for you on contingency. gribble10/12/10
No I'm in Michigan. marlon10/12/10
gotdamn, marlon. That was stupid. Yer a grown man. Fight EmmanuelGoldstein10/12/10
Don't rely exclusively on your attorney. Do some reading ab minus-sign10/12/10
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Did you have enough money/credit on you to pay for the item? minus-sign10/13/10
Yes, I had my wallet with me, with my credit cards, but not marlon10/13/10
But you could have paid for the item with one or more of you minus-sign10/13/10
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I miss Marlon. tomjoadsload08/31/17
He's been in prison for this issue for far too long.* *Th unlearnedhand09/01/17
FREE MARLON NOW! Seriously, he needs to come back and post. wolfman09/01/17

marlon (Oct 11, 2010 - 11:09 pm)

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ArnieBecker (Oct 11, 2010 - 11:19 pm)

The first rule regarding talking to the police is not to talk to the police.

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HomelessCrackheadEsq (Oct 11, 2010 - 11:24 pm)

Do they still hang people in your town?

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Janitor (Oct 11, 2010 - 11:33 pm)

Why did he drive you around the block after handcuffing you?

In my limited experience, the best way to steal from junkyards is to remove the part from the car, walk to the back wall/fence, and toss the part over. Make your exit, drive around, and retrieve the part. That probably wouldn't work in a small yard though...

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beeyay (Oct 11, 2010 - 11:56 pm)

My advice to you is:

1. Delete your post immediately.

2. Go find yourself an attorney in your area who practices in this field (false imprisonment/shoplifting) who might file a civil suit against the junkyard and its employees for false imprisonment and battery and who will also want to assist you with the criminal citation.

3. Do not do anything else before consulting with your attorney.

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marlon (Oct 12, 2010 - 12:01 am)

How much money should I expect to pay for the attorney? Also, I'm unemployed. Will that make any difference?

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beeyay (Oct 12, 2010 - 12:49 am)

You need to explain the facts of what occurred to the attorney and see whether there is something that might be pursued. You also did not mention whether you sustained any injuries during the little fracas. That is an issue of some relevance. I don't know the law in Michigan with respect to the circumstances under which force may be used to detain suspects for the police. The fact that you are unemployed does not have any relevance that I can see.

With respect to the civil aspect of it, an attorney would work on a contingency. You also have an associated criminal matter. If that is resolved in your favor, it helps your civil case. If you are convicted, it may hurt or completely end your civil case, depending on the law in your state. So, if it's something the attorney wants to pursue, then the fee for that representation may be reduced or waived, or it might cost you somewhere around $2000. I don't know what attorneys in your area are charging for simple misdemeanors like yours, but $2000 is probably in the ballpark, if a little on the high side.

Anyway, go talk to an attorney. Then, talk to another if necessary. And another.

If nobody wants to represent you or if they want to charge you more than you think you should pay, then go it alone, plead not guilty and do your best defending yourself. Sounds like some bullshit to me, but your version may not match the version of the junkyard employees and the police.

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marlon (Oct 12, 2010 - 1:02 am)

The police said if the owners suspect criminal intent, they're legally able to forceable detain me. I'm not really interested in the civil suit idea, only in avoiding a record.

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mississippilawyer (Oct 12, 2010 - 10:18 pm)

Incorrect and lol at a police officer ever correctly stating the law correctly. I would have an absolute field day with your case; in fact, I would do it pro bono to put an overzealous, dense law enforcement officer in his proper place.

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marlon (Oct 14, 2010 - 1:24 pm)

Could you post a link saying so, pretty please? It's in Michigan.

I'll owe you a big one.

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marlon (Oct 12, 2010 - 10:38 am)

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therewillbeblood (Oct 12, 2010 - 10:41 am)

Why not go to the public defender's office?

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marlon (Oct 12, 2010 - 10:43 am)

Yes I did consider that, but I figured they were in general not very caring or competent. But I think it would still be much better than defending myself.

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therewillbeblood (Oct 12, 2010 - 10:48 am)

Depends on where you are. Some public defender's offices are full of incompetents, while some are able to recruit idealistic type A gunners from the best schools in the country.

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greenhorn (Oct 12, 2010 - 10:54 am)

When I read the title of this thread I knew it was going to be about you. We're some of the few people on this site who know how to turn a wrench lol.

Aren't you a lawyer as well. I know you have an accounting background but did you go to law school ?

Follow the excellent advice posted on here and don't panic about what happen. The worst case scenario is that you get an ACOD (Adjournment in contemplation of dismissal), so basically if you keep your nose clean from now on this will go away.

Good luck.

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marlon (Oct 12, 2010 - 10:57 am)

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marlon (Oct 12, 2010 - 6:12 pm)

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gribble (Oct 12, 2010 - 6:17 pm)

If you're in NYC/LI I'll handle this for you on contingency. I have a lot of exp on these types of cases, and it's a fairly solid bet that it'll settle and you'll get a check from the city.

Also it helps if you're a minority. If you're not that's fine too...I just have to edit out some different things is all.

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marlon (Oct 12, 2010 - 6:20 pm)

No I'm in Michigan.

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EmmanuelGoldstein (Oct 12, 2010 - 6:19 pm)

gotdamn, marlon. That was stupid. Yer a grown man.

Fight it all the way. I have to tell you that generally the public defenders are better than the lawyers that the average unemployed person can hire. But do not let the defender bully you into settling. Make him/her fight it and set it for trial. Show up at trial day and the DA may have to dismiss if there are no witnesses against you.. The DA may set several cases for trial that day and can only go to trial on one, if that. The others will plea bargain or get dismissed or reset.

If you have to plea, then go for a pretrial diversion taht will let you seal or expunge yer record.

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minus-sign (Oct 12, 2010 - 10:25 pm)

Don't rely exclusively on your attorney. Do some reading about the criminal procedure applicable to your charge (a misdemeanor). Go to a court library, be nice to a librarian, and she'll show you how to find stuff about your charge. That's how they do it in Brooklyn, NY. They go to the library on the third floor, show their ID, sign in, and then ask a librarian at the desk to show them around. It helps if you have a piece of paper with you describing the charge and the statute. Have some change with you. In Brooklyn, it's 35 cents to copy per page. Use long paper and set the machine for reduced image.

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marlon (Oct 12, 2010 - 10:27 pm)

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minus-sign (Oct 13, 2010 - 4:52 pm)

Did you have enough money/credit on you to pay for the item?

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marlon (Oct 13, 2010 - 5:22 pm)

Yes, I had my wallet with me, with my credit cards, but not enough cash to pay for it.

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minus-sign (Oct 13, 2010 - 7:39 pm)

But you could have paid for the item with one or more of your credit cards, right?

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marlon (Oct 13, 2010 - 8:18 pm)

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tomjoadsload (Aug 31, 2017 - 5:45 pm)

I miss Marlon.

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unlearnedhand (Sep 1, 2017 - 1:40 pm)

He's been in prison for this issue for far too long.*

*This was a joke.

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wolfman (Sep 1, 2017 - 1:42 pm)

FREE MARLON NOW! Seriously, he needs to come back and post. He was way more entertaining than... well, nearly everybody else.

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