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Hey everyone, I'm currently a college freshman at a really g realdaredevil04/06/17
Such a poor flame. Put some more effort into it next time! mrtor04/06/17
Are you black, Latino, tranny, or another group that admissi isthisit04/06/17
Damn, I just got rekt honestly. I am indeed black and white realdaredevil04/06/17
For purposes of law school, I don't think where you go to un anotherjd04/06/17
Assuming this is not a flame: Right now, your biggest mi anothernjlawyer04/07/17
It's fine to go to community college. In fact, if you're goi onehell04/07/17
You can get into law school with pretty much any GPA, but th kramer71604/07/17
"Back in 04-05, anyone could get into Cooley. I don't know i inho2solo04/08/17
People who were too stupid to realize that they needed to ta isthisit04/08/17
HAhaha, hey, "they sound similar". inho2solo04/08/17
OP give it a go. A law degree opens so many doors. Give it a vohod04/08/17
Just be a tough guy and roll with the punches. If you want t parlance04/08/17
realdaredevil (Apr 6, 2017 - 5:02 pm)

Hey everyone, I'm currently a college freshman at a really good 4 year university. It is out of state from my home in MD, and it is pricey. My mom is a single mother and while her business was doing well a while ago, it's slowing and I won't be able to affford to come back here. Thus I am going to be transferring to a school back in Maryland, most likely UMD or Towson, but I've considered a community college. I also don't like where I'm going currently, which in addition because my family has been going through a difficult time, I grew distracted and because of that, my gpa suffered, I know it's a bad excuse and that I should've persevered but it is what it is. Anyway, can I still redeem myself? I will most likely be ending my freshman year with a sub 3.0 gpa, and not many credits because I withdrew from two classes (dumb move I know). How would me going to community college after a 4 year look? The community college is called CCBC and is kind of apart of UMD and Towson, so I'm assuming most credits would transfer. Assuming I bust my a$$ and and also get a good LSAT score, will my first couple years of undergrad be redeemable? Also, I am considering changing majors from economics to history (like I should've done earlier because I love history), what will that look like?

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mrtor (Apr 6, 2017 - 5:04 pm)

Such a poor flame. Put some more effort into it next time!

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isthisit (Apr 6, 2017 - 5:10 pm)

Are you black, Latino, tranny, or another group that admissions love?

This + a great LSAT will probably get you into decent schools.

How subpar 3.0 GPA are we talking about here? Because if it's really sub 3.0 than you're not going to get any scholly money. And it sounds to me that your family is too poor to afford to pay so loans will be your go-to. Also if you get a scholly, I doubt your ability to maintain it.

No one cares about your major.

Don't go to law school fam.

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realdaredevil (Apr 6, 2017 - 5:22 pm)

Damn, I just got rekt honestly. I am indeed black and white. Thanks for the advice so far guys, I do appreciate your honesty. I should clarify some things. In terms of how sub 3.0, I'm thinking about 2.6-2.9 maybe, I'm not completely sure. With the money, what I should've put is that, it's a long story, I have a trust fund, and this trust fund from my grandma can be used if it is for school or living. The problem with this is that my mom and my uncle basically have to die for this to be unlocked to me, and it means that they technically have to work for the rest of their lives, but we are going to find ways to fight this. Anyway, I want to save as much money as possible so that when we do unlock it, they can have some retirement money. It's a long story but financially, it will be alright, it's just I want to save a save as much as I can. True about the scholarships and stuff. But would the other stuff I mentioned affect me like community college, etc?

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anotherjd (Apr 6, 2017 - 5:56 pm)

For purposes of law school, I don't think where you go to undergrad really matters. It's all grades and LSAT. You certainly have your work cut out for you, but assuming you get excellent grades from here on out yes I think you can get admitted somewhere. Whether this should be a goal, of course, is a different question.

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anothernjlawyer (Apr 7, 2017 - 12:11 pm)

Assuming this is not a flame:

Right now, your biggest mistake would be majoring in History. Don't pick your major based on an assumption that you'll be going to law school. You'd look better to a law school with a major in basket weaving and a 170 LSAT score than with an English / Prelaw double major and a 160 LSAT.

Pick an undergrad major that will make you certified (or certification eligible) and competitive for real jobs the day you graduate. Finance? Engineering? Accounting? Education? I don't know which ones are best but it sure ain't History. Look into this closely and work hard at it. DO NOT waste your time in college thinking that it's just a law school layover.

Now, armed with your fancy major, get yourself a real job with a good company that has a tuition reimbursement plan when you graduate. Work a few years, then get them to pay for your law school at night.

If you get into Harvard, Yale, or Stanford, you can do law school right out of undergrad. Otherwise, follow plan above.

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onehell (Apr 7, 2017 - 12:45 pm)

It's fine to go to community college. In fact, if you're going to commute anyway, you should. The only reason to go straight to 4 year college is if either (A) you are going to a REALLY elite school; or (B) you want (and can afford without much debt) the "traditional" residential college experience, which admittedly is a lot of fun and a lifetime of memories if you are a traditional-age student.

Also, yes you can rehab your GPA. If you transfer, your GPA at the new school won't take into account the GPA at your old school. Law schools will re-compute your GPA based on all schools attended but as others have said, don't assume you should or will go to law school. Many other graduate programs care more about your GPA in your junior and senior years, or about how you did in specific classes (like your "science GPA" in the case of people trying to go to med school)

Right now, the name of the game should be keeping your options open. Go ahead and transfer, and there's no reason not to get your undergrad degree as cheaply as possible so by all means, go to the CC. Going to a CC and then transferring back to a 4 year will save you money and it really won't matter whether you spent all four years there, your degree will still ultimately come from the 4 year.

Also, as others have said, you really should keep your options open. So don't just take easy liberal arts classes. In your first two years, concentrate on knocking out general education requirements. Ultimately, you should probably major in biology (which gets you the prerequisites for health professions) or computer science, nursing, some kind of engineering, or maybe business if your school offers such a major at the undergraduate level. If you still want to go to law school they will take any major, but you don't want to major in something useless and end up feeling like law school is your only option.

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kramer716 (Apr 7, 2017 - 1:39 pm)

You can get into law school with pretty much any GPA, but the question is what quality of law school will you be able to attend. I attended MSU's law school, and we are in East Lansing. Cooley Law is in Lansing. Back in 04-05, anyone could get into Cooley. I don't know if it's the same way now, but that's the way it was back then. I think tuition was 30K. They didn't fail anyone out in your first year, so you were guaranteed one full year, but it costs you 30,000. I guess they raised the tuition up to $50,000 so if you want to go to law school you can, but it will cost you 50 G's. I wouldn't recommend doing this because the job market is crap.

I second the suggestion of majoring in something like biology, computer science, nursing, engineering, or business. If you want to major in history, then that's cool, but don't major in straight history. You should major in secondary education with a concentration in history education. Give yourself a fallback position. Also, I would intern as much as possible to gain connections, and I would study abroad.

If you want to do law school then more power to you, but just give yourself a safety net.

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inho2solo (Apr 8, 2017 - 3:32 pm)

"Back in 04-05, anyone could get into Cooley. I don't know if it's the same way now, but that's the way it was back then. "


I think their offer rate is like 87% recently. Don't know what it was back then, but doubt it was that high.

You have to wonder, who are the 13 (give/take) who don't get offered admission?

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isthisit (Apr 8, 2017 - 4:42 pm)

People who were too stupid to realize that they needed to take the LSAT not the PSAT.

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inho2solo (Apr 8, 2017 - 5:33 pm)

HAhaha, hey, "they sound similar".

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vohod (Apr 8, 2017 - 5:59 pm)

OP give it a go. A law degree opens so many doors. Give it a go. Your life will become much happier.

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parlance (Apr 8, 2017 - 10:26 pm)

Just be a tough guy and roll with the punches. If you want to become a great lawyer, you just have to find ways to adapt.

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