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I have 2 attorneys who are looking to ask for a raise but ca shikes05/16/17
Jesus how many cases is #2 handling if "some bad faith and p retard05/16/17
1) could be anywhere between 80k-115k. Does he also manage 2breedbares05/16/17
Few people successfully obtain raises by telling their bosse mrtor05/17/17
Is #1 working for a tower company? Tower companies are alway retard05/17/17
The one upside to the billable hour is it should be relative loblawyer05/17/17
shikes (May 16, 2017 - 8:21 pm)

I have 2 attorneys who are looking to ask for a raise but can't tell what the market is for them and I don't really know either.

1.) Attorney is in-house at a telecommunications company, 3 years experience in a suburb of a large market, work includes mostly regulations and contract work.

2.) ID attorney with 4 years of experience in large market in a firm of 40-50 attorneys, cases are mostly basic auto and premises liability with some bad faith and products liability sprinkled in about once a month. 2100 billable requirements.

My guess was $95-110k for #1 and $85-95k for #2.

Thoughts?

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retard (May 16, 2017 - 8:49 pm)

Jesus how many cases is #2 handling if "some bad faith and products liability sprinkled in about once a month"?

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2breedbares (May 16, 2017 - 9:23 pm)

1) could be anywhere between 80k-115k. Does he also manage outside counsel?

2) what do you mean by bad faith? Like UM/UIM type of cases? If he mostly does basic auto he isn't handling some crazy first or third party bad faith claims. That being said, because it's a firm that size, I would say he's making around 100k if we're talking large market.

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mrtor (May 17, 2017 - 9:21 am)

Few people successfully obtain raises by telling their bosses, "I want a raise because I don't think you're paying me what the 'market rate' is." What is market rate? If you're having this hard of a time pinning it down, the employer is likely going to struggle with it as well.

Value is also intrinsic. Mediocre employees may be worth less than market rate because the employer isn't committed to keeping them around. Truly exceptional employees may command higher than market rates since they are so valued.

You earn raises by demonstrating your accomplishments and value to the institution or firm. You need to give them legitimate reasons to pay you more in order to keep you around. If these attorneys are struggling to highlight their successes, and are falling back on the "market rate" argument instead, they're probably not going to get a raise, period.

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retard (May 17, 2017 - 1:31 pm)

Is #1 working for a tower company? Tower companies are always hiring like mad. Tell him to go get another offer and use it to leverage.

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loblawyer (May 17, 2017 - 8:35 pm)

The one upside to the billable hour is it should be relatively straightforward for the ID associate to figure out how much he is making the firm and, based off the traditional model, determine what his one third of that as salary is. Of course that does not work if he is already being paid more than a third of the revenue he brings in.

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