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Hi folks! I lined up a fellowship sponsor in NJ for fall 20 dharamsala06/27/17
medium, in my experience. Any particular issues you might dingbat06/27/17
-fired from a job -academic discipline -diagnosis of PTSD dharamsala06/27/17
They seem to be okay as long as you disclose everything and sjlawyer06/27/17
Easy but I don't have a record or anything to disclose other isthisit06/27/17
Make sure your credit is in order. I disclosed that I had a blackholelaw06/27/17
Yeah, my credit score is near an 800, so I'm not too worried dharamsala06/27/17
fired from a job - depends on why you got fired. If there w dingbat06/27/17
1. I was fired because I volunteered for the 501(c)(3) non- dharamsala06/27/17
which daft punk lyrics? ipesq06/27/17
Harder Better Faster Stronger! dharamsala06/28/17
1) nothing you can't recover from; chalk it up as a learning dingbat06/27/17
none of it is seriously problematic, I just don't understand dingbat06/27/17
I have no idea whether the two are linked. I'm not qualifie dharamsala06/29/17
The "insufferable b*tch" email was from 2013. The crayon an dharamsala06/27/17
I still need (want) more information on the lipstick thing. dingbat06/27/17
The lipstick marks got on the wall and the custodians had to dharamsala06/27/17
I also placed chewed gum on the doorhandles of various peopl dharamsala06/27/17
you're weird. Also, taht chewing gum thing is mean dingbat06/27/17
My mid-20s were pretty wild, lol. But I'm pretty much done dharamsala06/27/17
Are you in your late 20s? isthisit06/27/17
I'm 29. dharamsala06/27/17
Wild is not quite the term I'd use, but, young and dumb is a dingbat06/28/17
Do I need to hire an attorney? I can't really afford one. dharamsala06/28/17
I doubt it. Just proof your materials and view them as if t dingbat06/29/17
But see, e.g., http://www.jdunderground.com/admiss ions/threa vohod06/29/17
having read the old thread, my answer to whether you need to dingbat06/30/17
Boston College still hasn't accepted my apology for the lips dharamsala06/30/17
And the Dean I called an "insufferable b*tch" still hasn't a dharamsala06/30/17

dharamsala (Jun 27, 2017 - 8:22 am)

Hi folks! I lined up a fellowship sponsor in NJ for fall 2018, so it looks like I'll be taking the NJ bar in Feb 2018.

Has anyone here gone through C&F in NJ? How strict are they comparatively speaking?

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dingbat (Jun 27, 2017 - 8:41 am)

medium, in my experience.

Any particular issues you might have?

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dharamsala (Jun 27, 2017 - 11:03 am)

-fired from a job
-academic discipline
-diagnosis of PTSD/Depression
-moving violations

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sjlawyer (Jun 27, 2017 - 8:58 am)

They seem to be okay as long as you disclose everything and they get consistent answers from the other sources (law school, criminal records, etc.) Just review your Law school app and reiterate all of those disclosures.

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isthisit (Jun 27, 2017 - 9:35 am)

Easy but I don't have a record or anything to disclose other than moving violations/parking tickets.

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blackholelaw (Jun 27, 2017 - 11:35 am)

Make sure your credit is in order. I disclosed that I had an unpaid medical debt I was disputing, and they demanded to see comprehensive documentation.

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dharamsala (Jun 27, 2017 - 3:55 pm)

Yeah, my credit score is near an 800, so I'm not too worried.

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dingbat (Jun 27, 2017 - 1:32 pm)

fired from a job - depends on why you got fired. If there was no malfeasance on your part, don't worry about it
academic discipline - depends on what it is, but if you're honest and upfront, it'll probably be ok
PTSD/Depression - I don't know, but I presume it'll be ok
moving violations - depends on the frequency and severity. Got a couple of speeding tickets per year, nobody cares. 10 speeding tickets in a week, or reckless driving through a school zone, it might be problematic

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dharamsala (Jun 27, 2017 - 3:52 pm)

1. I was fired because I volunteered for the 501(c)(3) non-profit of a prospective client (who's case the office rejected), and didn't realize that this may have been a conflict of interest.
2. I was rusticated from school for calling a Dean an "insufferable b*tch" over email, kissing the wall with Burt's Bees lipstick on, and writing Daft Punk lyrics on the wall in crayon
3. I was diagnosed with PSTD and Depression in undergrad as a result of a sexual assault
4. I have two speeding tickets-one in 2014 and one in 2016.

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ipesq (Jun 27, 2017 - 9:15 pm)

which daft punk lyrics?

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dharamsala (Jun 28, 2017 - 2:18 am)

Harder Better Faster Stronger!

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dingbat (Jun 27, 2017 - 4:16 pm)

1) nothing you can't recover from; chalk it up as a learning experience
2) the email is a mistake that's easy to recover from; kissing the wall makes no sense to me, why you' do it or why you'd get disciplined for it, and graffiti/vandalism, well, I hope it wasn't recent. If it's several years passed, you can recover
3) I doubt this'll be an issue
4) no one cares. just disclose

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dingbat (Jun 27, 2017 - 4:17 pm)

none of it is seriously problematic, I just don't understand the kissing the wall bit.


Also, the totality may be an issue, but if you can somehow tie the problems in #2 to the PTSD/Depression listed in #3, that'll go a long way to mitigate

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dharamsala (Jun 29, 2017 - 1:17 pm)

I have no idea whether the two are linked. I'm not qualified to make that assessment; I'm not a psychiatrist.

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dharamsala (Jun 27, 2017 - 4:31 pm)

The "insufferable b*tch" email was from 2013. The crayon and lipstick incidents were from 2014. Not exactly ancient history, lololol.

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dingbat (Jun 27, 2017 - 5:48 pm)

I still need (want) more information on the lipstick thing. Who cares if you kiss a wall?

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dharamsala (Jun 27, 2017 - 5:54 pm)

The lipstick marks got on the wall and the custodians had to wipe it off. I mean, technically what I did is vandalism, a crime. But I wasn't arrested.

I would have offered to volunteer 10 hours a week (if not more) for the janitors to make it up to them, but I couldn't b/c I was rusticated from school.

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dharamsala (Jun 27, 2017 - 5:55 pm)

I also placed chewed gum on the doorhandles of various people's offices.

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dingbat (Jun 27, 2017 - 5:58 pm)

you're weird.

Also, taht chewing gum thing is mean

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dharamsala (Jun 27, 2017 - 6:02 pm)

My mid-20s were pretty wild, lol. But I'm pretty much done with that phase.

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isthisit (Jun 27, 2017 - 7:14 pm)

Are you in your late 20s?

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dharamsala (Jun 27, 2017 - 7:23 pm)

I'm 29.

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dingbat (Jun 28, 2017 - 12:39 pm)

Wild is not quite the term I'd use, but, young and dumb is an acceptable excuse on C&F, if you show proper remorse and that you've matured.

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dharamsala (Jun 28, 2017 - 1:03 pm)

Do I need to hire an attorney? I can't really afford one. (Clerkship salary is ~$45K).

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dingbat (Jun 29, 2017 - 2:39 pm)

I doubt it. Just proof your materials and view them as if they belong to a client

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vohod (Jun 29, 2017 - 8:13 pm)

But see, e.g., http://www.jdunderground.com/admissions/thread.php?threadId=54895

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dingbat (Jun 30, 2017 - 9:30 am)

having read the old thread, my answer to whether you need to hire an attorney will be slghtly different.

I still think that the answer currently is no, but, have one handy if need be. If you can polish a turd, you might be able to swing past C&F; if you get stuck, call in the big guns

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dharamsala (Jun 30, 2017 - 9:46 am)

Boston College still hasn't accepted my apology for the lipstick thing.

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dharamsala (Jun 30, 2017 - 9:49 am)

And the Dean I called an "insufferable b*tch" still hasn't accepted my LinkedIn friend request...

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