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"it's a job" is the bottom line, always. What I do for a liv nighthawk07/05/17
60 plus lawyer firm doing insurance defense seems like a mid attorneyinct07/05/17
You think "at a midsize firm" and "...60 plus lawyer firm" i superttthero07/05/17
To be fair he is just trying to not sound like grade D, **** triplesix07/05/17
I too am baffled as to what nighthawk is complaining about. williamdrayton07/05/17
Between standard small firm general practice areas (criminal sjlawyer07/05/17
He is projecting to anyone and everyone like a good salesman vohod07/05/17
When people ask me "what kind of lawyer are you?" I usually anothernjlawyer07/05/17
I agree with OP. In the end, it's just a job. Maybe I'm ja hairypalms07/05/17
I disagree with this--at least in part. For some people " patenttrollnj07/05/17
He freely admitted to doing ID. He didn't say "I do high exp lolwutjobs07/06/17
Not exactly, he prefaced it with midsize firm and only admit nighthawk07/06/17
I am an international transactions and distressed accounts r vohod07/06/17
Don't see the big deal. I'm way more in love with myself tha notiers07/15/17
Yeah, seems either like some weird case of projection or the anonattempt07/17/17
OP comes in here frequently to let everyone know about the u triplesix07/17/17
nighthawk (Jul 5, 2017 - 10:56 am)

"it's a job" is the bottom line, always. What I do for a living, what company I work for etc. does not go to who I am. I am not better or worse based on my job. I try to get myself in the best position for the most pay etc. but it does not make or break my life how prestigious it is. Call me the garbage man, as long as you pay me and give me the possibility of upward mobility.

The same is applicable for people who inflate their positions. I do not think more of you if you inflate and sound like some big lawyer; in fact, I think less of you.

Recent encounter:
lawyer: what do you do for a living?
Nighthawk: I am a lawyer
lawyer: so am I, at a midsize firm
Nighthawk: Cool, what area of law do you practice?
lawyer: insurance defense, 60 plus lawyer firm
Nighthawk: high volume defense work?
lawyer: definitely

When I think of bigfirm lawyers the thought of insurance defense at a mill does not come to mind. Skadden lawyers and the like work in corporate firms, not in ID mills making 55k. I would not have thought any less of you had you not mentioned the midsize firm bit and explained that you do ID. Now I think less of you.

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attorneyinct (Jul 5, 2017 - 2:05 pm)

60 plus lawyer firm doing insurance defense seems like a midsized firm to me. It's rare for a midsized firm to not have any insurance defense work.

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superttthero (Jul 5, 2017 - 11:16 am)

You think "at a midsize firm" and "...60 plus lawyer firm" is this guy trying to sound like a big lawyer?

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triplesix (Jul 5, 2017 - 11:29 am)

To be fair he is just trying to not sound like grade D, **** lawyer. Still a poosey but deff not as much of a dbag as op trying to paint him.

OP tells us how you would treat this poosey during a job interview and why this attitude would make him abad fit for your venerable organization

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williamdrayton (Jul 5, 2017 - 2:03 pm)

I too am baffled as to what nighthawk is complaining about. based on the limited information given to us, I completely fail to see where the guy was inflating his job status or engaging in any kind of puffery.

unless I have missed something all these years, describing a 60+ lawyer firm as "midsized" seems fairly normal

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sjlawyer (Jul 5, 2017 - 11:45 am)

Between standard small firm general practice areas (criminal, personal transactional like Real estate and wills/estates, family, etc.) and ID, does this encompass 80% of lawyers? It does right?

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vohod (Jul 5, 2017 - 12:13 pm)

He is projecting to anyone and everyone like a good salesman. What does he care what you think? I wish I had his attitude over the suicidal self hatred I stew in.

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anothernjlawyer (Jul 5, 2017 - 12:18 pm)

When people ask me "what kind of lawyer are you?" I usually just tell them: "not a very good one."

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hairypalms (Jul 5, 2017 - 12:39 pm)

I agree with OP. In the end, it's just a job. Maybe I'm jaded after 15 years of practice. At this point I have no ambition to try to pump myself up. At the end of the day, I really don't care. I just want to get paid and enjoy my life. I work in house and am becoming increasing unhappy. My goal at this point is to become a slumlord and generate passive income while operating a solo law practice.

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patenttrollnj (Jul 5, 2017 - 1:48 pm)

I disagree with this--at least in part.

For some people "it's [just] a job".

For others, the type of job you do matters.

I recently read that certain studies have shown that people who are happy at work are nearly twice as likely to be happy overall. So, for some, there is a correlation between being happy with their career and being happy in general. Not sure what exactly "causes" what, but it's at least reasonable to conclude that for some people happiness with their career is important to their overall happiness.

Therefore, although well meaning, I think it may be the wrong approach (depending on the individual) to tell someone "it's just a job" or "a job is a job".

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lolwutjobs (Jul 6, 2017 - 10:36 am)

He freely admitted to doing ID. He didn't say "I do high exposure catastrophic loss defense work" or even the nebulous "commercial litigation"

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nighthawk (Jul 6, 2017 - 12:06 pm)

Not exactly, he prefaced it with midsize firm and only admitted to ID after asking. Plus stating "high exposure catastrophic loss defense work" is analogous to child leadership executive or petroleum transfer expert that do not fool people.

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vohod (Jul 6, 2017 - 12:15 pm)

I am an international transactions and distressed accounts receivable manager.

I am a debt law piece of trash whose payment processor has a helpline in Winnipeg.

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notiers (Jul 15, 2017 - 9:45 pm)

Don't see the big deal. I'm way more in love with myself than the lawyer Nighthawk encountered. Lawyer seemed straight up down to earth if you ask me.

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anonattempt (Jul 17, 2017 - 12:19 pm)

Yeah, seems either like some weird case of projection or the OP was having an especially rough day lol.

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triplesix (Jul 17, 2017 - 1:15 pm)

OP comes in here frequently to let everyone know about the unworthy losers he ecnounters in his professional life, be an interview or some other encounter that provided him with sufficient information to make judgement on 'em suckers

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