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OGC Positions in the Federal Government

Does anyone know where I can find some good information on a kevin09876507/14/17
I'm a current SSA attorney-advisor, not in OGC. However, I c brownbear07/14/17
Thanks! Would you happen to have a copy of the hiring bullet kevin09876507/15/17
Agency attorney here as well who is not in the agency's OGC. anonattempt07/17/17
Will edit to say that our OGC does do a decent amount of fai anonattempt07/17/17
kevin098765 (Jul 14, 2017 - 5:25 pm)

Does anyone know where I can find some good information on attorney positions in the offices of general counsel for the various agencies?

For example, how, when, and who do they typically hire?

Which are the most/least competitive?

Is there a lot of opportunity to practice in different areas of law, or do you generally get assigned to a specific branch of attorneys doing the same work?

If anyone is currently serving in an OGC, how do you like the work?

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brownbear (Jul 14, 2017 - 10:01 pm)

I'm a current SSA attorney-advisor, not in OGC. However, I can give you an anecdotal answer. SSA has been circulating a recruitment bulletin for fraud prosecuting attorneys in the SSA OGC. My guess is it's part of Trump's agenda to prosecute fraud, waste and abuse with earmarked funds specifically for fraud prosecution. They were hiring at about 15 offices across the country GS 12
-15 possible, but not a career ladder position. I'm not sure if the jobs were posted on USAJobs, but they appeared to be open to any applicant. I only saw because the recruitment bulletin was emailed around internally. Don't have much more information then that.

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kevin098765 (Jul 15, 2017 - 11:43 am)

Thanks! Would you happen to have a copy of the hiring bulletin? Are they still hiring?

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anonattempt (Jul 17, 2017 - 10:40 am)

Agency attorney here as well who is not in the agency's OGC. It's a fairly big-name agency, and also a fairly niche practice area. Our OGC is pretty selective, but demonstrated experience and/or interest in the subject matter of the agency will win out over pure qualifications and/or experience. For example, Harvard Law magna cum laude with no other qualifications related to the subject matter of the agency would probably lose out to T25 cum laude with substantial pre or post law school experience in the agency's subject matter and/or a masters degree or PhD related to the agency's subject matter. Similarly, T25 cum laude with no other qualifications related to the subject matter of the agency would probably lose out to T50 cum laude with substantial pre or post law school experience in the agency's subject matter and/or a masters degree or PhD related to the agency's subject matter.

Hiring is sporadic and as-needed to maintain an OGC size that has been fairly constant over the years. They only really advertise their hiring needs when they need to hire a significant number of attorneys due to factors such a new statutory authority or OGC realizing that they hadn't been adequately hiring to replace attrition (and attrition in our OGC is generally low).

Attorneys usually work within one subject matter area within the agency's purview, and are assigned to either litigation or counseling related to agency activities within that subject matter area, but the legal work within that subject matter area is pretty varied and high level (lots of esoteric issues and issues of first impression). Based on my interaction with OGC attorneys, the work is really challenging and complex.

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anonattempt (Jul 17, 2017 - 11:55 am)

Will edit to say that our OGC does do a decent amount of fairly rote work as well, as in almost any law practice. Those assignments usually go to the more junior OGC attorneys.

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