Celebrating 10 years! 2007-2017

I quit my job and to go solo. Taking Q's.

2.5 years in government, 3.75 years at a big firm in a niche retard08/05/17
registered to tell you you'll be just fine. this is an envia uzername08/06/17
Thank you. Hourly but I expect I will have to modify my retard08/06/17
What's your practice area? What's your market size? Is your shitlawsf08/05/17
Land use and zoning with some commercial real estate to keep retard08/05/17
Sounds like you're going to make a killing. shitlawsf08/05/17
Congrats, and you beat me to it. inho2solo08/06/17
How have you generated your own clients? This is the bigges lolwutjobs08/06/17
I think this is the biggest thing keeping everyone from brea loblawyer08/06/17
Word of mouth, referrals from consultants, referrals from ot retard08/06/17
You're doing it the right way. This will be the best decisio greenhorn08/06/17
Of course I was a town attorney. It's THE pedigree. retard08/06/17
I want to keep overhead down but I don't know how or where t retard08/06/17
Congrats Dude! So are you renting space in a small firm ( isthisit08/06/17
Thank you. Definitely brick and mortar. Working on a few dif retard08/06/17
Did you read the JeffM guide? 2breedbares08/06/17
Yes. Multiple times. Some of it I think will be helpful, retard08/06/17
Retard, If you're in Suffolk I think I can help with off greenhorn08/06/17
I am indeed. Lilawyer1086@gmail.com retard08/06/17
Congrats. We Suffolkians are rooting for you. I was going prodigy08/07/17
retard (Aug 5, 2017 - 9:48 pm)

2.5 years in government, 3.75 years at a big firm in a niche area of law.

I've been generating my own clients since day one and have brought in over 150k YTD.

All of my clients are coming with me and a retiring practitioner in my niche has been referring me his/her new matters (3-4 a month).

I'm scared out of my mind but I think I'm ready.

Taking Q's

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uzername (Aug 6, 2017 - 5:16 pm)

registered to tell you you'll be just fine. this is an enviable position to go solo from.

will you be charging hourly or fixed?

will you plan to use leverage (paralegals etc) and grow or stick to doing it all yourself at a high dollar amount?

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retard (Aug 6, 2017 - 6:38 pm)

Thank you.

Hourly but I expect I will have to modify my billing style from the "bill everything and let it ride" big firm style to something more efficient.

Maybe. Not yet. Right now I'll be completely on my own. I have a slightly bigger firm that I can co-counsel with on some of my litigation to take advantage of support staff.

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shitlawsf (Aug 5, 2017 - 9:53 pm)

What's your practice area? What's your market size? Is your former firm p!ssed?

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retard (Aug 5, 2017 - 9:58 pm)

Land use and zoning with some commercial real estate to keep the lights on. The land use I do is actually even more of a subniche. It is largely focusing on an extremely affluent vacation region in what is considered an environmentally critical wetland subject to the jurisdiction of just about every layer of government possible.

When I was at the firm I did a ton of commercial stuff but my practice tended to gravitate towards the environmentally critical area.

The firm is not happy. I agreed to give them a month or so to wrap stuff up.

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shitlawsf (Aug 5, 2017 - 10:12 pm)

Sounds like you're going to make a killing.

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inho2solo (Aug 6, 2017 - 7:03 am)

Congrats, and you beat me to it.

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lolwutjobs (Aug 6, 2017 - 9:44 am)

How have you generated your own clients? This is the biggest thing keeping me from breaking away (I do not do things such as real estate closings, DWIs, criminal, or family law).

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loblawyer (Aug 6, 2017 - 11:04 am)

I think this is the biggest thing keeping everyone from breaking away or doing something else - generating business.

How did you break into the subniche - your time in government? Did you need great credentials and the usual out of school?

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retard (Aug 6, 2017 - 4:18 pm)

Word of mouth, referrals from consultants, referrals from other attorneys and politics. Generating the initial client phone call is only half of it. The second half is closing the client and demonstrating, without seeming too eager, that you can do the work. It's all about confidence and charisma. Know how to talk to wealthy people, have interesting hobbies, be able to carry on a conversation about stuff other than law.

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greenhorn (Aug 6, 2017 - 1:19 pm)

You're doing it the right way. This will be the best decision you make (I mean ideally you would never have gone to law school, but........)

It's scary, but people have gone solo with less experience and fewer resources than you and they succeeded. You won't regret this. It sounds like you know what you're doing so I don't have much advice to offer you except the suggestion that you keep your overhead down.

I know you're from my part of the world (Suffolk county), so by any chance did you work as a town attorney type role before going to a private firm (the big zoning players around here range from the mighty Rivkin Radler to solo practice guys with good connections)

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retard (Aug 6, 2017 - 3:59 pm)

Of course I was a town attorney. It's THE pedigree.

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retard (Aug 6, 2017 - 4:21 pm)

I want to keep overhead down but I don't know how or where to do it.

I need office space. I need a dedicated office line and email address. I would like my name to come up in google. I will have my wife do the billing. I will co counsel on litigation matters to keep support costs down.

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isthisit (Aug 6, 2017 - 5:35 pm)

Congrats Dude!

So are you renting space in a small firm (to share expenses) or are you brick and mortar somewhere else or are you doing a home office type practice?

Are you advertising?

Any resources that helped you hang your shingle?

What are you doing for legal research?

Do you have any staff or considering any?

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retard (Aug 6, 2017 - 6:41 pm)

Thank you. Definitely brick and mortar. Working on a few different options though. Home office isn't possible for space issues, motivation issues and for client meetings. My clients tend to be sophisticated so meeting at my dining room table isn't going to work.

No advertising other than SEO.

As for resources, a close working relationship with a competitor who wants to retire.

For research I am looking into westlaw but most of my work is not research heavy.

No staff. Down the road maybe. I have an arrangement with a firm to co-counsel anything I need support staff on.

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2breedbares (Aug 6, 2017 - 7:26 pm)

Did you read the JeffM guide?

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retard (Aug 6, 2017 - 8:26 pm)

Yes. Multiple times.

Some of it I think will be helpful, other stuff I don't think is applicable to my situation. Who knows though? I'm flying by the seat of my pants right now.

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greenhorn (Aug 6, 2017 - 8:25 pm)

Retard,

If you're in Suffolk I think I can help with office space. I know you emailed call me at my throwaway account but I got locked out after forgetting the password. We'll get in touch.

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retard (Aug 6, 2017 - 8:27 pm)

I am indeed. Lilawyer1086@gmail.com

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prodigy (Aug 7, 2017 - 6:54 am)

Congrats. We Suffolkians are rooting for you. I was going to suggest meeting up with Greenhorn, but I am glad he reached out.

Greenhorn, maybe able to give you the advice and guidance you need to make a success of your practice. I remember reading another JDuer saying he his smart and is doing well, maybe one day he will take us out on the boat too lol. You will do just fine.

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