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Valpo down can't even enroll 30 students

Next up for the law school boneyard: http://taxprof.typep 6figuremistake08/22/17
I failed to convince a friend to avoid Valpo in 2014. She's flyer1408/22/17
This taking too long but good to see that is happening at le triplesix08/22/17
I have absolutely zero sympathy for institutions of this sor wolfman08/22/17
They've got to be bleeding cash with those enrollment number mrtor08/23/17
Mediocre lawl schools are between 10-50, everything else is triplesix08/23/17
In one of the very few instances of the ABA doing anything p inindiana08/23/17
What I can't figure out is why someone as legit as Andrea Ly rubbersoul1408/23/17
That sinking ship is probs paying her upwards of 500k + per jd4hire08/23/17
Exactly - high salary plus the panache of having a "name" ru dupednontraditional08/24/17
6figuremistake (Aug 22, 2017 - 2:22 pm)

Next up for the law school boneyard:

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/2017/08/valparaisos-incoming-1l-class-is-28-students-down-73-from-last-year-87-from-2013.html

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flyer14 (Aug 22, 2017 - 3:21 pm)

I failed to convince a friend to avoid Valpo in 2014. She's taking the bar this summer. Has ambitions of immigration law, I think. Forget if it was Chicago or NYC. If she pulls it off, she will be poster child of success for decades to come. If she doesn't pull it off... well, there's always Alpo.

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triplesix (Aug 22, 2017 - 4:44 pm)

This taking too long but good to see that is happening at least. Unitazes need to be shut down asap!

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wolfman (Aug 22, 2017 - 5:15 pm)

I have absolutely zero sympathy for institutions of this sort; they are the modern-day equivalent of crooked used-car dealers (except you can give the car back) and mobbed-up loan sharks (except at least in theory you can move to avoid a loan shark or go to the cops). Student loan debt is forever. If it was legal and I could get time off work, I'd go to the next law school that shuts down and literally boot the boomer dean in the ass on the last day screaming "get out of here, you old bastard!" (it'd be even better if it were a young bastard, I try to respect the elderly).

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mrtor (Aug 23, 2017 - 12:25 pm)

They've got to be bleeding cash with those enrollment numbers. I've got no sympathy for mediocre law schools with Ivy League tuition rates.

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triplesix (Aug 23, 2017 - 12:34 pm)

Mediocre lawl schools are between 10-50, everything else is trash.

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inindiana (Aug 23, 2017 - 1:26 pm)

In one of the very few instances of the ABA doing anything positive, Valpo was forced to boost its LSAT and GPA for incoming 1Ls which resulted in this year's low number of matrics. Valpo's incoming classes 5-7 years were rather large, and certainly much higher than the number of jobs its grads could reasonably expect to get. Their stats also were decidedly Cooleyesque, which is what got the ABA involved. With something like 7 schools in/around Chicago and the hordes of Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois and Notre Dame grads trying to land jobs around there, Valpo grads tend to get left out and wind up hanging a shingle in Lake or Porter County (Gary region) and trying to make a go of it, with predictable results.

Although Valpo's law school has been around for awhile, its primary purpose is to funnel $$$ into the central adminstration's coffers. If enrollment doesn't pick up by next year, look out below.

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rubbersoul14 (Aug 23, 2017 - 2:18 pm)

What I can't figure out is why someone as legit as Andrea Lyon thought that becoming Dean there was a good idea. She was a top criminal defense/death penalty lawyer in Illinois and ran DePaul's criminal defense clinic. Unlike most lawl profs, she could have gone into private practice and thrived if she had wanted. Instead, she climbed aboard this sinking ship.

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jd4hire (Aug 23, 2017 - 2:37 pm)

That sinking ship is probs paying her upwards of 500k + per year to be there. Not sure about Valp, but all faculty at mine seemed like they were part time employees working 5- 10 hours per week. Dean was around more, but not much more.

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dupednontraditional (Aug 24, 2017 - 6:40 am)

Exactly - high salary plus the panache of having a "name" run the school. The logic being if we have a name at the fore, somehow that awesomeness will rub off on the students, thus enticing them to apply.

The reality is, if course, that preftige doesn't transfer. Kind of like when lol schools hire a big-wag ex-partner or something to run the career services office. Somehow, that is going to make jobs out of whole cloth for hapless students. Not that the schools ever disabused the students of their incorrect perceptions...

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