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Starting my own firm, Illinois or Florida?

I graduated this past May, will be going solo. I plan on doi gforce8808/27/17
So option 1 is a cold, dark, dismal state where you will sho therewillbeblood08/27/17
florida is pleasant in July? dingbat08/28/17
I like it. But I like heat. therewillbeblood09/01/17
It is horrible in July. It is horrible may-September at a mi downwardslope09/01/17
As someone who spent a part of his childhood in Florida, I n wolfman09/01/17
You are literally sweating within seconds of going outside. downwardslope09/01/17
When you live there long enough your body becomes adjusted t therewillbeblood09/01/17
Um, I lived there for 30 years. I sweat a lot. It is just as downwardslope09/01/17
Florida OP and good luck! I'm always excited for new solos. isthisit08/27/17
sounds like you answered your question. IL is a state in dec uzername08/28/17
Because FL is overrun with unemployed lawyers wanting to han downwardslope08/28/17
The ex worked for a criminal law firm for years in Tampa. Sh kramer71608/28/17
Wills are challenging. A friend of the family did estate pla downwardslope08/28/17
Not to mention everyone and their brother doing wills in FL retard08/28/17
Just a tip from someone else that retired/relocated to Flori trijocker09/01/17
Cook County is circling the drain. The taxes and ever increa mtbislife08/28/17
Florida = pleasant 6 months a year. God awful hot the rest o harbinger1708/31/17
gforce88 (Aug 27, 2017 - 4:40 am)

I graduated this past May, will be going solo. I plan on doing wills to start, and there's built-in clientele for this in Florida. Most of my relatives are moving to Florida within 2 years, we are very close and they provide an invaluable support network for me. That being said, I have lived in Illinois my whole life, and went to a regional school in IL, so it would be a major change, but no income tax, as well as low property taxes in Florida, especially compared to IL, is a major consideration, since the plan is to purchase my own office, once i've passed the bar.

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therewillbeblood (Aug 27, 2017 - 11:11 am)

So option 1 is a cold, dark, dismal state where you will shortly not have family support and you have no clientele waiting, while option 2 is a warm, sunny, state that is pleasant 12 months out of the year and where you will have a source of work as well as family support?

What exactly is Illinois offering you here?

And when you say "built-in clientele" do you mean you actually know concrete people who will willingly hire you?

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dingbat (Aug 28, 2017 - 2:11 pm)

florida is pleasant in July?

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therewillbeblood (Sep 1, 2017 - 1:15 pm)

I like it. But I like heat.

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downwardslope (Sep 1, 2017 - 2:03 pm)

It is horrible in July. It is horrible may-September at a minimum. Sometimes horrible through October or even through December. (*ahem* last year)

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wolfman (Sep 1, 2017 - 2:09 pm)

As someone who spent a part of his childhood in Florida, I never understood people who say that. Unless you are too poor to afford AC, you're, like, almost never in the actual heat unless you go to the beach. I like Florida. June and July can get a bit warm, but see above. And May, August and September can be quite pleasant.

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downwardslope (Sep 1, 2017 - 2:25 pm)

You are literally sweating within seconds of going outside. Seconds. That is not pleasant. When you walk around your car to squeegee off the moisture in the morning, the first window is wet again by the time you get around the car because the humidity is at 98%. Even with the AC going, you have to have a dehumidifier to keep stuff from mildewing.

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therewillbeblood (Sep 1, 2017 - 2:30 pm)

When you live there long enough your body becomes adjusted to the heat and you don't sweat nearly as much.

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downwardslope (Sep 1, 2017 - 3:34 pm)

Um, I lived there for 30 years. I sweat a lot. It is just as much the dampness in the air as your body. It is not like a window sweats.

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isthisit (Aug 27, 2017 - 11:37 am)

Florida OP and good luck! I'm always excited for new solos.

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uzername (Aug 28, 2017 - 12:01 pm)

sounds like you answered your question. IL is a state in decline, losing population more than any other state, with corrupt bankrupt govt. Why on earth would you hitch your future to that? Not a big fan of FL, but at least there's population growth, low tax/COL, and some sunshine.

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downwardslope (Aug 28, 2017 - 12:11 pm)

Because FL is overrun with unemployed lawyers wanting to hang their own shingle? Also, the COL isn't that low anywhere you would want to live compared to what you actually would make.

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kramer716 (Aug 28, 2017 - 2:13 pm)

The ex worked for a criminal law firm for years in Tampa. She hung her shingle in the last couple of years and seems to be doing fine, so just based on that I would say FL. Not doing wills though, so not how much help that is.

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downwardslope (Aug 28, 2017 - 2:40 pm)

Wills are challenging. A friend of the family did estate planning and was really struggling for a while. He was quite prominent in his community. He had a diverse practice and was also a broker/CPA and in the same area of the state as Kramer mentions.

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retard (Aug 28, 2017 - 5:39 pm)

Not to mention everyone and their brother doing wills in FL because of the retirement population. I would imagine that the competition is fierce and the fees are low as a result. Without a solid referral source I'm not sure how strong of a plan going to FL to do wills is.

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trijocker (Sep 1, 2017 - 12:52 pm)

Just a tip from someone else that retired/relocated to Florida. The COL is not that low unless you want to live in a trailer in the middle of nowhere. Even if you purchase a home both flood & hurricane insurance are prohibitively expensive, so lots of people just risk it.
As far as work goes, I hope the OP has lots of relatives. There are many, many attorneys here in Florida, and despite it being a large state, it does not have a large presence of tech cos that say CA and Texas have to provide work for lawyers. Therefore you end up doing PI/Wills/Criminal law or doing something else to get by like teaching at a community college or doing taxes. There are also many law schools turning out new Florida grads.
It is a pretty state though if you like the heat, and don't mind the roaches and wildlife like snakes, gators and bears and have someway to survive.

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mtbislife (Aug 28, 2017 - 2:50 pm)

Cook County is circling the drain. The taxes and ever increasing crime should be enough to keep you away.

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harbinger17 (Aug 31, 2017 - 11:46 am)

Florida = pleasant 6 months a year. God awful hot the rest of the time.

COL is high if you live anywhere desirable.

Flooded with lawyers. Flooded.

Good luck either way!

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