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My 1 year work anniversary

My 1 year anniversary at work was August 3. According to the fettywap08/29/17
No but it violates company policy... If they giving other triplesix08/29/17
My boss initially told me that my firm computes bonuses/rais 3lol08/29/17
I suspect the white male attorney they hired mid-September w fettywap08/29/17
That was common practice on Guam. They pretty much never did kramer71608/29/17
A private firm treating you fairly? Come on, man. You have t mrtor08/30/17
I know I know. I have tried to find another job. I do have m fettywap08/30/17
Haha nice passive aggression. Women in the workplace. karlfarbman08/30/17
To be fair... Fuk our wage suppressing elites. This is how c triplesix08/30/17
Yeah mostly true cause it's hard to really complain in that karlfarbman08/30/17
I have had plenty of money disputes with crappy employers ov triplesix08/31/17
My firm does that. Evaluations are done when they get to th qdllc08/31/17
Maybe I'm missing something - at a private firm you have no jd4hire08/31/17
Generally no, a company is not required to give you a raise. fettywap08/31/17
Have you asked a more senior attorney what they have done in flawed08/31/17
I don't mean to split hairs, but your quote above says that supesnation08/31/17
There's a form that they make you fill out and take with you fettywap08/31/17
The other attorneys said what they typically do is do it abo fettywap08/31/17
So then it seems you are 2 months early on being worried abo flawed08/31/17
fettywap (Aug 29, 2017 - 5:28 pm)

My 1 year anniversary at work was August 3. According to the company's written personnel policies and procedures,"salaries are reviewed on an annual basis and will be done on or about the anniversary date of hire." My review and raise have not taken place, and no one's mentioned it or acts like it's coming. I was complaining to one of the other new guys that they're going to cheat us out of our raises. He said he was told they usually do them a couple of months after the anniversary date, and then maybe back date the pay raise to the anniversary date. Do you think that violates any wage or labor laws? How long are they allowed to put this off? I feel like they're just nickel and diming us to death and trying to see if we will quit before they spend anymore money on us. So sick of this crap.

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triplesix (Aug 29, 2017 - 5:53 pm)

No but it violates company policy...

If they giving other raises on time, maybe they are discriminating (unless you are a white guy haha)

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3lol (Aug 29, 2017 - 6:12 pm)

My boss initially told me that my firm computes bonuses/raises around holiday time. I got hired in November so its not much longer for me, not that its been more than a year anyway, but it would suck to be hired in February if that's really the case.

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fettywap (Aug 29, 2017 - 8:05 pm)

I suspect the white male attorney they hired mid-September will get his raise before I do. I'm waiting to see. He got the same end of year bonus as me last year. I do a lot more work than the male attorneys.

On my state's Department of Labor FAQs section on the web site, one of the questions they answer says maybe I can file a claim for back wages if I was scheduled to receive a pay raise but never received it.

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kramer716 (Aug 29, 2017 - 8:42 pm)

That was common practice on Guam. They pretty much never did your review on the date you were hired, it was a few weeks later but they did give you retro pay. If they do the review and you don't get your retro, then I would talk to HR first and if you get di--ed around, then make a complaint. Feel free to ignore, but that is what I would do

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mrtor (Aug 30, 2017 - 9:23 am)

A private firm treating you fairly? Come on, man. You have two options: 1) ask for your review and for consideration for a raise, or 2) look for a new opportunity which you can either take or use as leverage to obtain that raise. I would suspect that the firm owner is either busy, trying to pocket as much money as he can, or he simply does not believe your performance warrants a raise.

Silently suffering is pointless. Take action.

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fettywap (Aug 30, 2017 - 9:25 am)

I know I know. I have tried to find another job. I do have my little ways of getting back at them that they don't know about. Because if they don't give a f about me, I sure don't care about them.

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karlfarbman (Aug 30, 2017 - 9:28 am)

Haha nice passive aggression. Women in the workplace.

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triplesix (Aug 30, 2017 - 11:21 am)

To be fair... Fuk our wage suppressing elites. This is how civil disobedience in the work place goes, little turds here and there. Let them deal with it down the road, hopefully when you are gone haha

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karlfarbman (Aug 30, 2017 - 11:41 am)

Yeah mostly true cause it's hard to really complain in that environment without long-term repercussions. Mrtor's response of lol at a private firm treating her fairly is credited. Withholding rewards and pitting attorneys/Losers against each other is commonplace in these environments, whether done intentionally or unintentionally.

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triplesix (Aug 31, 2017 - 10:56 am)

I have had plenty of money disputes with crappy employers over my short career. While in the end I got my way money wise, the "relationships" were "ruined".

My position is get paid today and worry about that crap later. if they don't repsect enough to pay you today, this "relationship" ain't worth having.

Employers lose all power once you don't work for them, so that's a good time to rattle their cage. Make them spend some cash on advice of counsel. Make them pay someone else, if they won't pay you.

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qdllc (Aug 31, 2017 - 6:31 am)

My firm does that. Evaluations are done when they get to them but pay increases are backdated to the anniversary date.

I suspect you might have an issue if you leave or are dismissed between your anniversary date and when you get the back pay on your check.

Otherwise, as long as you got paid...

Of course, my firm has over 150 people total working in 5 offices, so it can take time to get annual reviews done. This would be different for a small firm.

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jd4hire (Aug 31, 2017 - 10:47 am)

Maybe I'm missing something - at a private firm you have no right to raises or reviews. If they're in a handbook or policy guide, it likely has a disclaimer stating that information is provided and does not create a contract.

I know employment laws are state specific, but I've never heard of any laws requiring reviews or raises in private industry. Hell, I'd think you could be there 10 years and they don't have to conduct a review or give raises.

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fettywap (Aug 31, 2017 - 11:50 am)

Generally no, a company is not required to give you a raise. However, when they have a written policy and everyone else gets an annual review and raise, they need to give you one too, or at least give a review and explain why you don't deserve a raise.

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flawed (Aug 31, 2017 - 1:42 pm)

Have you asked a more senior attorney what they have done in the past?

Is the firm profitable or not so much?

Do they like you?

How replaceable are you?

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supesnation (Aug 31, 2017 - 4:33 pm)

I don't mean to split hairs, but your quote above says that salaries will be reviewed, not that you will receive a review.

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fettywap (Aug 31, 2017 - 4:52 pm)

There's a form that they make you fill out and take with you when you have your review. I did not type out all their policies here.

They're already 4 weeks late. My student loan based on this job is due in two weeks. They're not going to delay it 2 months for me so my boss can buy himself another Mercedes.

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fettywap (Aug 31, 2017 - 2:15 pm)

The other attorneys said what they typically do is do it about 2 months late and then give back pay. They are profitable, but the owners are greedy bastards and want it all for themselves. They come in occasionally and then travel or whatever the rest of their time. They like me, and like I said, I do more work than the male attorneys. I'm not replaceable, although they seem to fire people without much thought.

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flawed (Aug 31, 2017 - 2:24 pm)

So then it seems you are 2 months early on being worried about it.

Just put your head down and let it play out. Dont complain to others that they are going to screw you - if they catch wind of it, it can only be a negative.

If you find out others get it and you dont, then you got a reason to gripe.

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