Celebrating 10 years! 2007-2017

Amazing law opportunity. This is so sad.

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org /nva/lgl/d/associate-atto joshdoctson09/07/17
it's a dino "You must be able to take dictation" triplesix09/07/17
What does that even mean? joshdoctson09/07/17
It's not a McLean firn for nothing! The pays McLean as well. isthisit09/08/17
What's honestly so bad about that? Sure sounds like there's notreallyalawyer09/08/17
Most people attending law school arent doing it just for fun mtbislife09/08/17
What's so sad about it? New law school graduates are just as mrlollipop09/08/17
Clearly he is advertising on Craigslist to secure an indepen joshdoctson09/08/17
They spelled Excel wrong lol. tuliotanaka09/08/17
My assistant makes more than this. If this guy can't afford bucwild09/08/17
I don't know understand what your point here is. I know seve triplesix09/08/17
No princess, this is not a humblebrag. This ad is paying $18 bucwild09/08/17
It's a contingent fee shop. The base is never good. Depends midlaw09/08/17
Most legal assistants would probably make more than that. Th guyingorillasuit09/08/17
I once temped for a dinosaur like this. No computer on his d onehell09/08/17
joshdoctson (Sep 7, 2017 - 10:20 pm)

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/lgl/d/associate-attorney-wanted/6292790773.html

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triplesix (Sep 7, 2017 - 10:42 pm)

it's a dino

"You must be able to take dictation"

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joshdoctson (Sep 7, 2017 - 11:00 pm)

What does that even mean?

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isthisit (Sep 8, 2017 - 7:18 am)

It's not a McLean firn for nothing! The pays McLean as well.

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notreallyalawyer (Sep 8, 2017 - 8:20 am)

What's honestly so bad about that? Sure sounds like there's some office admin involved, but it also says legal work AND they will be trained how to do it. If i were independently wealthy, and coming out of law school, I'd do that, get some experience there, and then leave.. I know of people who went to Fordham, that years after graduation are still working unpaid for the DA office to get experience because they are already rich and don't need money for a while.

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mtbislife (Sep 8, 2017 - 9:10 am)

Most people attending law school arent doing it just for fun or because their trust fund stipulated they have to. Its going to be interesting to see what happens to the college industrial complex now that you can make more money bartending than with many degrees.

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mrlollipop (Sep 8, 2017 - 8:23 am)

What's so sad about it? New law school graduates are just as worth less as high school kids. At least, high school kids can flip burgers

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joshdoctson (Sep 8, 2017 - 8:34 am)

Clearly he is advertising on Craigslist to secure an independently wealthy associate attorney in McLean, Virginia. He probably has at least 30 applications to wade through today because people are desperate.

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tuliotanaka (Sep 8, 2017 - 8:52 am)

They spelled Excel wrong lol.

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bucwild (Sep 8, 2017 - 9:01 am)

My assistant makes more than this. If this guy can't afford to pay a decent wage to his associate, he likely doesn't enough work to justify having an associate in the first place.

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triplesix (Sep 8, 2017 - 10:41 am)

I don't know understand what your point here is. I know several legal assistants making north 110k base, which makes most lawlyers blush. Granted they have llms and foreign languages.

So is this just a humble brag beau?

Is she exclusively "yours" bc I am a bit skeptical of that claim dear.

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bucwild (Sep 8, 2017 - 11:12 am)

No princess, this is not a humblebrag. This ad is paying $18/hour, which works out to just under $40k/year. Yes, my assistant makes more than that, yes she works for me exclusively, and yes, private firms shouldn't be offering associates that little money.

Other questions?

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midlaw (Sep 8, 2017 - 11:44 am)

It's a contingent fee shop. The base is never good. Depends on the percentage.

The dictation point is strange.

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guyingorillasuit (Sep 8, 2017 - 1:25 pm)

Most legal assistants would probably make more than that. That has nothing to do with whether or not this is a decent job offer. As others pointed out, a first-year attorney is generally worth very little, and in many cases is a liability to the firm rather than a source of productivity. That doesn't mean his pay will not go up quickly when he starts to show his worth, bring in clients, etc.

Here's the difference: the legal assistant in a small firm will never make anything close to real money. A lawyer, if he is smart and he works hard, can make hundreds of thousands per year later on in his career.

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onehell (Sep 8, 2017 - 2:49 pm)

I once temped for a dinosaur like this. No computer on his desk or in his office at all.

The dictation wasn't just for letters. Secretaries had to print out his emails. He would dictate his response and the secretary would transcribe it and then bring it back to him printed out. Then he would mark that up in red pen and give it back. Then the secretary logs into his email and types in the final response and sends.

Guy would literally never touch a computer, just as he would never have touched a typewriter in the old days because that's what the "typing pool" is for. Didn't know how, didn't want to know how, it was beneath him. So much wasted time, at the clients' expense.

If this dude is like that, it's hard to imagine how you'd ever have time to work on actual cases, which would make the fee splitting part of the offer illusory. This post may well be for a secretary who just happens to be barred.

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