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Attorney Advisor/Trademark examiner with USPTO

I saw a posting on USAjobs for attorney advisor postions wit laterdude09/12/17
I saw this too. Realize everyone and there mother is going t notreallyalawyer09/12/17
Having talked to employees there, my understanding is that, sanka09/12/17
It states it is entry level, so for recent grads that won't notreallyalawyer09/12/17
From what I've seen in the past, entry level Trademark attor ugly09/15/17
Is there a reason why they now have two announcements? One f notreallyalawyer09/17/17
I think because they're strictly hiring entry level at GS 11 laterdude09/18/17
Oh I see, thanks. notreallyalawyer09/18/17
A friend of mine just got hired last year. He came from twen sanka09/18/17
laterdude (Sep 12, 2017 - 1:10 pm)

I saw a posting on USAjobs for attorney advisor postions with the USPTO. Looks like it's for the trademark examiner positions. Can anyone on here offer any insight into this position? What are the production requirements like and are they manageable? How many days can you telework and when do you become eligible? What opportunities for growth are there? What are promotions like (i.e, can you basically get GS increases every year through GS14 as long as you're doing your job?).

Thanks in advance.

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notreallyalawyer (Sep 12, 2017 - 2:08 pm)

I saw this too. Realize everyone and there mother is going to apply for it, despite me having technically some "experience" with Trademarks, as my law review note is on this topic... I did some google searching and there's some website devoted to people complaining about TM examiners.. You get people pissed off at you for sure doing this work.. Job would probably be ideal for me, but like everything else, I'm never given a chance, and I doubt this will be any different, but I bought some books on the topic should I get an interview. I looked at other websites in the past on this, and in past hiring years, they got 800+ applications for 30 spots doing this job.. Also this kind of work depends upon the economy being good, the better the economy the more people trying to register for trademarks.

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sanka (Sep 12, 2017 - 3:15 pm)

Having talked to employees there, my understanding is that, even if you are a brainiac in one sibject matter expertise, you are assigned an area in which you have no subject matter experience, to avoid conflicting out.

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notreallyalawyer (Sep 12, 2017 - 3:38 pm)

It states it is entry level, so for recent grads that won't be an issue.. This would be my dream come true, something technical, writing and research.. Something that I've technically done some work in before at least in law school.. And that means... no soup for you.

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ugly (Sep 15, 2017 - 2:03 pm)

From what I've seen in the past, entry level Trademark attorney positions get filled with attorneys having around a year of private Trademark experience. Must be lots of competition.

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notreallyalawyer (Sep 17, 2017 - 2:09 pm)

Is there a reason why they now have two announcements? One for GS11-14, which they list as entry level and now a GS12-14 which has very specific questions about prior TM experience? Think they are going to cancel the entry level announcement?

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laterdude (Sep 18, 2017 - 9:48 am)

I think because they're strictly hiring entry level at GS 11 salary, even if you have relevant and/or years of legal experience. But if you have prior TM examiner experience then they'll hire you at least at GS12. Seems like they're just casting a wider net imo. I browsed linkedin and I found a couple people who don't seem to have relevant trademark experience that now work as TM examiners...

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notreallyalawyer (Sep 18, 2017 - 10:23 am)

Oh I see, thanks.

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sanka (Sep 18, 2017 - 9:02 am)

A friend of mine just got hired last year. He came from twenty years experience in silicon Valley.

That said, some of his colleagues are from NYC with less than ten years experience.

Almost all of them telework, so it's hard to get HR Intel by general observations.

Good luck (you'll need it.)

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