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SBA Disaster Attorney Posting

Small Business Administration administers disaster-related l bankofmouse10/04/17
Appreciate the information. Will have to check it out kramer71610/04/17
I am hedging that I didn't get the SSA job in New Mexico, so kramer71610/06/17
Wish I could but I don’t live in those areas. notreallyalawyer10/06/17
Keep in mind background checks take usually at least 2 month notreallyalawyer10/06/17
I called HR today. It sounded like they are sending out peop kramer71610/06/17
I figured background check would include a prior employment notreallyalawyer10/07/17
I posted this ad on one of your other threads. I believe the thirdtierlaw10/07/17
Do you know where you saw that? I've tried looking and could notreallyalawyer10/07/17
https://www.sba.gov/disaster-assist ance/hurricane-response-j thirdtierlaw10/07/17
Thanks. Hope they’ll consider someone with no experience i notreallyalawyer10/07/17
Good luck. Let me know if you hear anything and I will do th kramer71610/07/17
SUre will. I just applied right now notreallyalawyer10/08/17
just applied too petunia10/08/17
It's odd, the announcements are a bit different. I applied t notreallyalawyer10/08/17
It's not that odd. The SBA ad was posted a bit ago and who k thirdtierlaw10/08/17
The sba one also lists buffalo . That’s much much closer t notreallyalawyer10/08/17
They have three cities. I submitted an application to the ge kramer71610/08/17
One more thing to keep in mind, which might sway me to pick notreallyalawyer10/08/17
Yeah this is why I am trying to avoid doing doc review in Pi kramer71610/08/17
I feel to much shame to even try networking as a doc reviewe notreallyalawyer10/08/17
Also TX has no income tax but I doubt I’d qualify as a res notreallyalawyer10/08/17
why Pittsburgh for doc review? personal ties or something? petunia10/08/17
Cheap cost of living. Can crash with some friends initially kramer71610/08/17
Thanks for the poast, we got talent here! triplesix10/06/17
Also, on the ad that was provided here, they give you the op kramer71610/08/17
Well the sba sure says sba people will train you. I wonder i notreallyalawyer10/08/17
They do say they will train you, but the question is how muc kramer71610/08/17
I'm sure they'd want people to do things correctly. Anyways, notreallyalawyer10/08/17
I am preparing myself to expect a very rudimentary training kramer71610/09/17
Me thinks I won’t be hearing from them. A potential for 6 notreallyalawyer10/10/17
Go with the sure thing. If the 6-month thing is offered to y kramer71610/10/17
I’d much rather do the SBA thing though notreallyalawyer10/10/17
Doesn't change the advice. Go for the sure thing. If they of kramer71610/10/17
I can't afford to burn bridges though. If I tell this temp a notreallyalawyer10/10/17
Do what you want to do, but a federal job looks better on yo kramer71610/10/17
Heck, if I respond to this doc review gig, they probably won notreallyalawyer10/10/17
Do this. Apply to the Doc review position. GIve it 24 hours kramer71610/10/17
I am in DC. Curious why you don’t do doc review in DC. Is notreallyalawyer10/10/17
There is a decent amount, but it's more the cost of living. kramer71610/10/17
DO they require PA bar? notreallyalawyer10/10/17
not that I have seen. Just need a license and some don't req kramer71610/10/17
Good. I dread DC so much. notreallyalawyer10/10/17
I love DC and will continue to try and get a federal job the kramer71610/10/17
Looks like neither is panning out. Never heard from SBA and notreallyalawyer10/14/17
The background check is prior crimes/owe the government mone whipster10/14/17
They don’t do phone interviews? I think they have buffalo notreallyalawyer10/14/17
It is appreciated. That is a new email address, so will have kramer71610/16/17
Should have asked this earlier. Did you apply and get picked kramer71610/16/17
Sorry, the previous question is open to anyone. THis job wou kramer71610/16/17

bankofmouse (Oct 4, 2017 - 9:07 pm)

Small Business Administration administers disaster-related loans for individuals and businesses. Following the recent hurricanes, they are busy. It's hourly, but likely significant OT at least initially. Licensed in any state welcome.


https://l.tx.bar.associationcareernetwork.com/c/job.cfm?utm%5Fcampaign=Oct%2D02&utm%5Fmedium=Email&utm%5Fcontent=JobPost&jb=36876517&utm%5Fsource=JobsEmail&msessid=YTDLH

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kramer716 (Oct 4, 2017 - 9:58 pm)

Appreciate the information. Will have to check it out

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kramer716 (Oct 6, 2017 - 7:46 pm)

I am hedging that I didn't get the SSA job in New Mexico, so applied for this. Anyone else?

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 6, 2017 - 7:56 pm)

Wish I could but I don’t live in those areas.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 6, 2017 - 7:59 pm)

Keep in mind background checks take usually at least 2 months

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kramer716 (Oct 6, 2017 - 8:10 pm)

I called HR today. It sounded like they are sending out people ASAP. They gave a timeframe of two weeks. Run the credit check and off you go, but it is the feds so who the hell knows.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 7, 2017 - 9:41 am)

I figured background check would include a prior employment background check, which takes a while. Wish I could do this, could learn something, but I can't afford to move for some temporary job, and I'd lose most of what I make to paying rent or long term hotel, even a crappy long term hotel, costs a lot.

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thirdtierlaw (Oct 7, 2017 - 12:42 pm)

I posted this ad on one of your other threads. I believe they completely pay your travel and per diem.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 7, 2017 - 1:00 pm)

Do you know where you saw that? I've tried looking and couldn't see anything other than some food per diem listed on glass door. I think they would have mentioned this in the ad on the TX bar webpage.. If they did that, i could do this, but if they don't, I'd be taking a really large financial risk just with housing myself.

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thirdtierlaw (Oct 7, 2017 - 3:31 pm)

https://www.sba.gov/disaster-assistance/hurricane-response-jobs-sba#section-header-2

It is the first sentence under compensation under the legal job description.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 7, 2017 - 4:18 pm)

Thanks. Hope they’ll consider someone with no experience in that.

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kramer716 (Oct 7, 2017 - 5:51 pm)

Good luck. Let me know if you hear anything and I will do the same.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 8, 2017 - 2:11 pm)

SUre will. I just applied right now

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petunia (Oct 8, 2017 - 3:55 pm)

just applied too

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 8, 2017 - 4:09 pm)

It's odd, the announcements are a bit different. I applied to the SBA one, whereas the Texas bar one lists different work locations and different pay rates, the SBA one mentions the per diem and travel, the TX one doesn't.. I wonder which is the more recent one.

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thirdtierlaw (Oct 8, 2017 - 4:22 pm)

It's not that odd. The SBA ad was posted a bit ago and who knows how much interest they had. If I was unemployed or in a job I could leave for a few months, I'd have jumped on it for the training. We know it pays better than most doc review.

The second and probably more likely reason is that the second ad was on the tx bar. They aren't going to offer to pay someone's per diem if they are only commuting across town.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 8, 2017 - 4:40 pm)

The sba one also lists buffalo . That’s much much closer to me but winter there would be a nightmare. I have zero snow driving experience

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kramer716 (Oct 8, 2017 - 6:23 pm)

They have three cities. I submitted an application to the general ad, and I submitted an application to the one on the Texas bar website. I think I will probably get called for the BUffalo opening just because of geography, but would happily take Dallas or Sacramento because I won't complain if I get away from a Buffalo winter.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 8, 2017 - 7:46 pm)

One more thing to keep in mind, which might sway me to pick TX if I get a choice. I'm a member of the NY bar. If I work in Buffalo that means I'd be "practicing law" in NY, meaning I'd have to do CLEs. I'd like to avoid that. Working say a few months might create need for me to have 2 years of CLE, costs a lot of money, and nothing I ever learned from it ever helped me. i wouldn't mind doing CLE if it could help me get a job or be a lawyer.

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kramer716 (Oct 8, 2017 - 7:49 pm)

Yeah this is why I am trying to avoid doing doc review in Pittsburgh because it would trigger CLEs. Although, the flip side is I would be going to a lot of em, so networking opportunities would arise.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 8, 2017 - 7:57 pm)

I feel to much shame to even try networking as a doc reviewer. I can’t imagine people taking me seriously after 13-14 years of doc review. Also I’m a horrible socializer. When I was in college during rush st my fraternity they just said wear your hat and shut up. You look cool but as soon as you open your mouth...

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 8, 2017 - 7:58 pm)

Also TX has no income tax but I doubt I’d qualify as a resident from this

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petunia (Oct 8, 2017 - 9:47 pm)

why Pittsburgh for doc review? personal ties or something?

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kramer716 (Oct 8, 2017 - 10:09 pm)

Cheap cost of living. Can crash with some friends initially then their apartments are cheap, so best landing spot. I was looking at Charlotte, but Pitt's just a bit cheaper.

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triplesix (Oct 6, 2017 - 8:17 pm)

Thanks for the poast, we got talent here!

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kramer716 (Oct 8, 2017 - 6:33 pm)

Also, on the ad that was provided here, they give you the option to call HR. I did, but they just told me to send it to the email address that they listed. I tried to gauge how long the job would last, and she didn't know. I tried to gauge how soon they were starting, and she only told me about Buffalo, and it sounded like they want people to start in a couple of weeks. It sounded like they just wanted time to do their credit check, and then you get thrown into the fire.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 8, 2017 - 7:36 pm)

Well the sba sure says sba people will train you. I wonder if they’ll consider lawyers for non lawyer positions

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kramer716 (Oct 8, 2017 - 7:45 pm)

They do say they will train you, but the question is how much training. It sounds like it will be high-volume work for a while, so they may give you just a rudimentary training process, and off you go to get the ball rolling. I think the key will be working with other new hires to figure crap out, so hopefully, wherever we end up we don't end up with a bunch of jackasses.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 8, 2017 - 8:20 pm)

I'm sure they'd want people to do things correctly. Anyways, if they pick me, and it takes a few weeks before I start, I'll ask them if there's anything i should be reading to help prepare myself. I took a few property courses in law school besides just the 1L property course, but they didn't much go into loans other than stating the name of construction loans, takeout loans, stuff like that, plus this was 17 or so years ago, but I did win an award from my law school for my performance in property law classes. Like that helped me at all :(

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kramer716 (Oct 9, 2017 - 1:36 pm)

I am preparing myself to expect a very rudimentary training process, and I am expecting to be thrown to the wolves almost immediately. I plan on doing what I did when I was on Guam, and by that I mean get to know everyone in the office, and figure out who I can talk to that will actually be helpful. If I can find a few people who I can bounce ideas off of or ask questions of, then I will be happy. Having said that, first things first and hope to hear something about the hiring process this week. If you want Buffalo, then I would expect to start in two weeks. I got that from the HR rep, but she could be wrong, but that is what I am working off of.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 10, 2017 - 12:46 pm)

Me thinks I won’t be hearing from them. A potential for 6 month gig has popped up in DC. Can’t mention these possibilities or they won’t take me on . Crap now this makes me hesitate to even apply for doc review jobs.

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kramer716 (Oct 10, 2017 - 1:01 pm)

Go with the sure thing. If the 6-month thing is offered to you then take it, and if the other job comes along then great.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 10, 2017 - 1:06 pm)

I’d much rather do the SBA thing though

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kramer716 (Oct 10, 2017 - 2:03 pm)

Doesn't change the advice. Go for the sure thing. If they offer you the 6-month thing do that, and if you get an offer to do the SBA deal then take it. Look out for you.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 10, 2017 - 2:53 pm)

I can't afford to burn bridges though. If I tell this temp agency I have no prospects and can work the 6 months, if I get and take something else and end early, they'll black list me. The honest likelihood even if I got this SBA job, I'd be returning to doc review when it ends, and can't afford to risk alienating a firm or an agency.

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kramer716 (Oct 10, 2017 - 2:59 pm)

Do what you want to do, but a federal job looks better on your resume than another document review position. Having said that, first things first, we have to get the SBA job.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 10, 2017 - 3:05 pm)

Heck, if I respond to this doc review gig, they probably won't even contact me back, that's happened the last three gigs I've applied to now.. I never thought I'd have even a problem getting doc review work. God my life sucks.

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kramer716 (Oct 10, 2017 - 3:17 pm)

Do this. Apply to the Doc review position. GIve it 24 hours then call them. Don't just email and expect a callback. If you are in NYC they may be hesitant to call you for a DC position, so you will want to do something to address those concerns. I tried that approach with zero success which is why if SBA falls through I am moving to Pittsburgh for that purpose

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 10, 2017 - 3:49 pm)

I am in DC. Curious why you don’t do doc review in DC. Is there much work in Pitt?

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kramer716 (Oct 10, 2017 - 4:09 pm)

There is a decent amount, but it's more the cost of living. For what it takes to live a month in DC I can live about 4 months in Pittsburgh.

Having said that, if you applied to that 6-month DC position call them same time tomorrow

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 10, 2017 - 4:21 pm)

DO they require PA bar?

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kramer716 (Oct 10, 2017 - 4:25 pm)

not that I have seen. Just need a license and some don't require that.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 10, 2017 - 4:34 pm)

Good. I dread DC so much.

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kramer716 (Oct 10, 2017 - 4:41 pm)

I love DC and will continue to try and get a federal job there, but if you are doing doc review, then not my first choice. I would pick the cheapest city with the most doc review jobs, but not sure how you figure that out.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 14, 2017 - 11:39 am)

Looks like neither is panning out. Never heard from SBA and I interviewed with temp agency but don’t know if I’m going to be placed on the project. I’ll apply to more agencies this week. That sba thing would have been nice. But guess it was too good to be true. Me getting practical experience that might even be marketable.

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whipster (Oct 14, 2017 - 5:51 pm)

The background check is prior crimes/owe the government money.

They also pull your credit. If you haven't heard from them reach out to them. There is a number in their ads. If you are breathing, have a bar card, and can get there in a few days, they will interview you.

Agency Contact: Disaster Reserve Human Resources Specialist
Phone: 1-866-407-7795
Fax: 202-292-3876
Email: ODAHireMe@sba.gov

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 14, 2017 - 6:14 pm)

They don’t do phone interviews? I think they have buffalo too but someone says that starts in 2 weeks

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kramer716 (Oct 16, 2017 - 8:55 am)

It is appreciated. That is a new email address, so will have to email them today. Will also call.

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kramer716 (Oct 16, 2017 - 11:54 am)

Should have asked this earlier. Did you apply and get picked up? IF so, what was the process? When you called did they schedule for the interview or did they tell you to use the email address?

How long after applying did it take for them to interview you?

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kramer716 (Oct 16, 2017 - 10:46 pm)

Sorry, the previous question is open to anyone. THis job wouldn't be my first choice, but it would be a satisfactory parachute.

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