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Registering with temp/doc review agencies

Yes, it's come to that, I need to be doing this. In the past notreallyalawyer10/06/17
Where are you geographically speaking? Is there a ton of doc kramer71610/06/17
I’m prob in the largest doc review market that isn’t nyc notreallyalawyer10/06/17
Gotcha. Understandable. I would send your resume in via emai kramer71610/06/17
I remember the old days they would really immediately. Must notreallyalawyer10/06/17
It's possible. You would know better than I, but always got kramer71610/06/17
DC doc review has been spotty ever since elections. I guess triplesix10/06/17
You are subscribed to Posse List emails, right? I see tons o wolfman10/06/17
Thanks, I know of a lot of this, used to do agency work 10+ notreallyalawyer10/07/17
The problem is things have gotten a lot tighter. There are bittersweet10/10/17
God I want out of this nightmare so badly. Doing doc review, notreallyalawyer10/10/17
I understand. I thought I had escaped, but that job col bittersweet10/10/17
How can I convince myself while doing doc review that I coul notreallyalawyer10/10/17
maybe it's time to double down on doc review: https://ww petunia10/10/17
THE only thing worse than doc review is managing doc review. notreallyalawyer10/10/17
I can't even contact former people I used to do doc review w notreallyalawyer10/11/17
During my brief time doing doc review you had to get a refer barelylegal10/10/17
I continue to think you need to consult a professional for s mrtor10/11/17
I've got about $13,000 of debt from just my share of psychia notreallyalawyer10/11/17
"they really can only help people with drug or alcohol addic sanka10/12/17
I was a bit shocked. I told them about my anxiety issues, th notreallyalawyer10/12/17
I thought you said you went to GW? That is hardly horrible i downwardslope10/12/17
No, I did not go to GWU. notreallyalawyer10/12/17

notreallyalawyer (Oct 6, 2017 - 7:19 pm)

Yes, it's come to that, I need to be doing this. In the past two weeks I've sent my resume to two separate agencies, replying to a specific job, and neither of them even responded to me. I've got years and years of doc review experience.. They didn't even respond to say "we have filled this project, would you like to come in and register anyways?" Nothing. No response, period.

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kramer716 (Oct 6, 2017 - 7:35 pm)

Where are you geographically speaking? Is there a ton of doc review work where you are?

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 6, 2017 - 7:38 pm)

I’m prob in the largest doc review market that isn’t nyc. I guess I’ll send more resumes out but wanted to respond to specific projects I saw on posse list

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kramer716 (Oct 6, 2017 - 7:44 pm)

Gotcha. Understandable. I would send your resume in via email. Give it 48 hours, and if you don't hear anything then call the agency.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 6, 2017 - 7:47 pm)

I remember the old days they would really immediately. Must be so flooded with desperate doc reviewers they can be really picky .

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kramer716 (Oct 6, 2017 - 7:49 pm)

It's possible. You would know better than I, but always got the sense that the squeaky wheel gets the grease when it comes to doc review, so just make sure you are noticed. Again, I could be wrong on that.

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triplesix (Oct 6, 2017 - 8:18 pm)

DC doc review has been spotty ever since elections. I guess it does not hurt to register but is such a burden.

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wolfman (Oct 6, 2017 - 9:34 pm)

You are subscribed to Posse List emails, right? I see tons of DC reviews on there. In my experience, just registering won't get you anyplace, you gotta both register and apply for specific projects from Posse and Craigslist as soon as they come up, at least to get your first gig w/particular agency; once you've worked for then, it gets easier. I did pretty much steady DR, both English and FL, for two years in NY before starting my current gig. Be prepared for projects to vanish at the last minute, uncertainty about duration, lies, etc., that's just how it goes. On the other hand, no responsibility, time off when you need it, goofing off, etc. I have a "job" and sometimes I miss DR... though not for long.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 7, 2017 - 9:31 am)

Thanks, I know of a lot of this, used to do agency work 10+ years ago. However I do remember them at least responding to you replying to a particular job, even if full, so they can register you so they can put you on other projects. I responded to something that doesn't start until THursday of this coming week. Normally they would have responded lightning fast. I don't want to be doing this, this is a need now, unfortunately..

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bittersweet (Oct 10, 2017 - 5:08 pm)

The problem is things have gotten a lot tighter. There are more agencies, often fighting over scraps. A lot of them have trimmed their staff down so low that they don't have the manpower to respond if it isn't urgent to get you on that project. Many companies only have a virtual presence in certain cities. They have an office that gets staffed ONLY when they need to do interviews or supervise a project, otherwise the staff are working in another city with a lower cost of living.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 10, 2017 - 5:11 pm)

God I want out of this nightmare so badly. Doing doc review, being stuck in it, must be what hell is.

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bittersweet (Oct 10, 2017 - 5:40 pm)

I understand.

I thought I had escaped, but that job collapsed and Sallie Mae still wants her money. So I got back in, rather than go broke. It sucks, but it beats unemployment.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 10, 2017 - 5:57 pm)

How can I convince myself while doing doc review that I could ever get out of it or make a career change after I've tried for 6 months now and have gotten nothing? There's only so long doc review can go on. Eventually a lot of it will be replaced by TAR, and they'll only need management level people and a handful of QC people, perhaps some people to do redactions.. But there's not much future for even just $ for survival left in doc review. And that's if I'm fortunate enough to get doc review work, and I dread the thought of even doing it, but I have no choice at this point.

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petunia (Oct 10, 2017 - 8:18 pm)

maybe it's time to double down on doc review:

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 10, 2017 - 8:29 pm)

THE only thing worse than doc review is managing doc review. Projects are run like gulags. I want out. I also was no chosen for promotion to management at my last job

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 11, 2017 - 11:36 am)

I can't even contact former people I used to do doc review with, to see if they managed to get out of it, and how. I kept in touch with former co doc reviewers, but after I got my staff attorney job they stopped speaking to me, I guess out of jealousy. Now whenever I try to contact them on facebook, just asking what's up, they never respond to me. The only people I am 100% certain got out of it, married wealthy men. So that's not an option for me. But going into doc review management, even if I wanted to, which I don't, my anxiety would prevent me. I get so nervous dealing with associates and partners, I can barely speak.

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barelylegal (Oct 10, 2017 - 10:07 pm)

During my brief time doing doc review you had to get a referral to get registered with an agency. Try reaching out to someone you know that's registered with the agency.

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mrtor (Oct 11, 2017 - 10:51 am)

I continue to think you need to consult a professional for some mental health counseling. Your posts go beyond the typical self-pity and cynicism of many posters on here. If you do have an untreated and uncontrolled condition, it could be significantly harming your career prospects.

Medical advice aside, at least consult someone for advice concerning your resume and cover letter. Too many people think they have crafted masterpieces when they are really pieces of sh*t. Given your experience, and the targeted jobs, I suspect that you are not effectively selling yourself or conveying your pitch.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 11, 2017 - 11:02 am)

I've got about $13,000 of debt from just my share of psychiatric bills (for years and years of therapy) even when I had insurance. I'm currently seeing a shrink, but like in the past, it has never helped anything. I'm starting to look at my resume again, and making some changes, but the real problem is the last 19 years of my life have been law school and document review. Meaning there's no chance for me in the legal profession, and when I apply for jobs outside of the profession, I'm not getting any interest in me. I can't just leave 19 years off my resume.

I also went to my local Bar for help on anxiety and leaving the profession, and they basically said, besides giving me a list of career counselors, that will cost thousands of dollars, that they really can only help people with drug or alcohol addiction and sent me on my way.

Believe it or not, other than the financial crisis I'm having, I'm much better depression wise than I was back in 2003. Imagine how angry you'd be even had you gone to a crap school, being in the top 5%, editor on your law review, published, and doing doc review. Now I've accepted my limitations, that it's going to be difficult for me to get any kind of professional work. I'd happily work at costco stocking shelves if I didn't owe so much money..

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sanka (Oct 12, 2017 - 1:49 pm)

"they really can only help people with drug or alcohol addiction"

Sad but true in every aspect of the legal industry.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 12, 2017 - 6:03 pm)

I was a bit shocked. I told them about my anxiety issues, they told me I could have 10 cost free meetings with a LCSW at the Bar. After the second meeting, she just gave me a list of career counselors and said good luck.

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downwardslope (Oct 12, 2017 - 1:58 pm)

I thought you said you went to GW? That is hardly horrible if you were too 5% in the early 2000s.

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notreallyalawyer (Oct 12, 2017 - 6:04 pm)

No, I did not go to GWU.

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