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Dressing for court provocatively

I see this every now and then where younger lady lawyers hav esquire13811/01/17
I don't personally do this, but I have heard from other wome legalbeagle11/01/17
I have done it. Nothing outwardly slutty but maybe a little downwardslope11/01/17
When I had my job at the firm I worked at, they would at lea notreallyalawyer11/01/17
in all fairness, men either wear a suit, or slacks and a but dingbat11/02/17
Women like dressing for attention. And in other breaking new actionbronson11/01/17
Ehh - not so much for getting attention but moreso manipulat mightymouse1211/22/17
Yeah basically. I remember I had one referee in training obs downwardslope11/22/17
Ex used to wear shorter dresses on court days, but never cle kramer71611/01/17
I 1000% am more willing to negotiate with a hot looking oppo oddis50011/01/17
My supervisor wears a tank top with a push-up bra around the fettywap11/01/17
I guess I'm mostly wondering where the final line is and if esquire13811/01/17
Ehh so much for equality :( triplesix11/01/17
I suspect that is honestly part of why no one says anything. esquire13811/01/17
"tarpit"? Is that some kind of racial dogwhistle? ;-) inho2solo11/02/17
What do you expect the judge to say? "Excuse me counselor, b fettywap11/02/17
The only time I saw an attorney get reprimanded for a dress kramer71611/02/17
Wow! I would laugh at an attorney that went to court in a go cocolawyer11/03/17
Not sure how to describe the guy, but he was a great transac kramer71611/03/17
This is essentially the porning up of America You can now trijocker11/02/17
One of the legal assistants showed up in bright pink hair li fettywap11/02/17
what the hell... that's like part of being a woman... do peo wolfman11/02/17
Rainbow hair or manbun screams barista or craft brew worker. trijocker11/02/17
I guess the boss was okay with it and my supervisor is havin fettywap11/02/17
I see the title was changed.......I thought adding the quali esquire13811/03/17
I did cringe a bit when I first saw it, and wondered if it w wutwutwut11/03/17

esquire138 (Nov 1, 2017 - 12:12 pm)

I see this every now and then where younger lady lawyers have cleavage pushed up and spilling out on one end and a near miniskirt with a slit in the back. Looks like lawyer porn. Not complaining just wondering if it's intentional.

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legalbeagle (Nov 1, 2017 - 12:58 pm)

I don't personally do this, but I have heard from other women that sometimes it helps them get what they want from a court attorney, or clerk or even judge. *shrug*

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downwardslope (Nov 1, 2017 - 4:38 pm)

I have done it. Nothing outwardly slutty but maybe a little tight based on a particular audience and otherwise weak legal argument.

I had one office abruptly change the dress code in June to no ankle pants or shorter and this was in a hot climate where you pretty much could not find full length women’s pants at that time of year. No one commented about cleavage baring miniskirts is spaghetti straps. Yep, people were subjected to emails and meetings to discuss pant length while people in the meetings were wearing spaghetti strap mini dresses that were absolutely no problem. Definitely a man making a dress code there.

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notreallyalawyer (Nov 1, 2017 - 4:21 pm)

When I had my job at the firm I worked at, they would at least once ever summer send out a reminder about the dresscode, and all of the things they listed were basically directed toward women, reminding them not to wear capri pants, mini skirts,etc. They've never had an issue with men except for possibly wearing sneakers.

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dingbat (Nov 2, 2017 - 9:03 am)

in all fairness, men either wear a suit, or slacks and a button-down shirt if more casual is permitted. there's nowhere near as much variation

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actionbronson (Nov 1, 2017 - 1:01 pm)

Women like dressing for attention. And in other breaking news, water is wet, the sky is blue, and the Cleveland Browns lose lots of football games.

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mightymouse12 (Nov 22, 2017 - 2:30 am)

Ehh - not so much for getting attention but moreso manipulating the fact that you guys tend to let one head think more than the other.

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downwardslope (Nov 22, 2017 - 8:33 am)

Yeah basically. I remember I had one referee in training observing a proceeding. My expert was a psychologist who watched him stare at the scantily clad legal intern on the other side. She suggested that I might want to dress a bit more seductively in the future with that guy since My employer made a lot of shaky decisions. We won every time.

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kramer716 (Nov 1, 2017 - 2:02 pm)

Ex used to wear shorter dresses on court days, but never cleavage and wasn't really a mini-skirt. Wouldn't have helped attentionwise since our judge was a woman.

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oddis500 (Nov 1, 2017 - 4:19 pm)

I 1000% am more willing to negotiate with a hot looking opposing counsel. Is this really news? Every attorney I've ever known was this way. Btw, it also applies to every single other profession.

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fettywap (Nov 1, 2017 - 5:13 pm)

My supervisor wears a tank top with a push-up bra around the office, and then harasses everyone else about far less revealing clothing.

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esquire138 (Nov 1, 2017 - 5:43 pm)

I guess I'm mostly wondering where the final line is and if it varires by court. I have seen defendants be told they looked inapropriate and one male attorney who boldly showed up in dingy jeans and tshirt, which was a bit nuts, but not a female attorney yet.

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triplesix (Nov 1, 2017 - 5:45 pm)

Ehh so much for equality :(

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esquire138 (Nov 1, 2017 - 5:54 pm)

I suspect that is honestly part of why no one says anything. Dress code issues always seem to end up national Twitter issues. No one wants to step into that tarpit.

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inho2solo (Nov 2, 2017 - 7:30 am)

"tarpit"?
Is that some kind of racial dogwhistle?

;-)

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fettywap (Nov 2, 2017 - 9:38 am)

What do you expect the judge to say? "Excuse me counselor, but I can see your boobs." He would get accused of sexual harassment.

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kramer716 (Nov 2, 2017 - 10:31 am)

The only time I saw an attorney get reprimanded for a dress code violation was when one of the attorneys in our civil division had to appear for a hearing. He has been in my office for years, but most of his work is done in the office and he goes to court maybe twice a decade. So he came to court wearing decent pants, but a golf shirt. The marshall walked over and whispered, "Um, you kind of need a tie to appear." We all gave him crap, and they found this horrendous brown tie that he could wear for the appearance. I guess I can't call it a reprimand because he was warned before court started, but that was the only time I have seen anything done in person.

There was an attorney in my division who went to court without a tie once. I think he did get reprimanded but didn't witness that. No clue what the hell he was thinking.

The nice thing about Guam was Fridays are Islandwear days. You can wear Hawaiian shirts on Fridays with no ties when you appeared.

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cocolawyer (Nov 3, 2017 - 2:49 pm)

Wow! I would laugh at an attorney that went to court in a golf shirt. I literally would do nothing but offer stupid deals because of my lack of respect for that attorney. If you can't bother to get a dress shirt then certainly you are not going to have the work ethic to actually prepare a good case for trial.

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kramer716 (Nov 3, 2017 - 3:47 pm)

Not sure how to describe the guy, but he was a great transactional attorney, but just never went to court hearings. I forget why he was there, but I think it was for some civil case having to do with government-owned property.

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trijocker (Nov 2, 2017 - 11:15 am)

This is essentially the porning up of America

You can now see 8 year olds and up going and purchasing at Victoria's Secret. So by the time these femmes are in college and even law school they have to have an instagram full of bikini shots to remain popular. Therefore, wearing a bra top thing under a suit is not something shocking to the current generation, I have observed this visiting law schools and pre legal groups.
Get over big suits and the bow blouses or whatever they are called of Melania Trump. This generation would put a jacket over a bikini and call that court wear.

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fettywap (Nov 2, 2017 - 12:05 pm)

One of the legal assistants showed up in bright pink hair like old Gwen Stefani today and quite the scandal is brewing. They're checking the dress code. I'm waiting to see how this plays out.

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wolfman (Nov 2, 2017 - 12:11 pm)

what the hell... that's like part of being a woman... do people really think having a legal assistant with pink hair or whatnot matters?

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trijocker (Nov 2, 2017 - 1:55 pm)

Rainbow hair or manbun screams barista or craft brew worker.

Maybe the firm should draft a dress code and make new hires sign it.

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fettywap (Nov 2, 2017 - 1:08 pm)

I guess the boss was okay with it and my supervisor is having a conniption. I could hear yelling from her office across the room. I pointed out that they're allowed to wear flip tops, crop pants, and tattoos, so they really can't claim the dress code is professional. There's no way my supervisor will let this go.

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esquire138 (Nov 3, 2017 - 3:55 pm)

I see the title was changed.......I thought adding the qualifier "classy" to porn would make is SFW. Guess Admin thought otherwise?

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wutwutwut (Nov 3, 2017 - 5:11 pm)

I did cringe a bit when I first saw it, and wondered if it would get deleted entire because of that.

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