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Lawyers who drink

Since work has been picking up, I have found myself drinking schopenhauerx9912/05/17
"and it’s to help me sleep" Yeah your family should be bucwild12/06/17
*3 bottles is excess. Fixed that for you. e36m312/05/17
If ur doing it for to help you sleep, it's excess. Face t wutwutwut12/05/17
Alcohol is habit forming. It is bad idea to drink during wor triplesix12/06/17
What's wrong with two-three glasses of wine? Jeez, tough cr trijocker12/06/17
Alcohol right before bed will help you fall asleep, but your wolfman12/06/17
Exactly. I can't sleep after a few glasses of wine. I'm wi boseisaltplace12/06/17
How can you drink and doc review? You’ll be on the toilet notreallyalawyer12/06/17
Why do you need to drink in Document Review? How stressful i cocolawyer12/06/17
Although this may not be a problem now, it is well on its wa tcpaul12/06/17
If you are drinking to get to sleep, that's a problem. It's toooldtocare12/06/17
Well you remember the scripture when Jesus turns water into catholiclawyeriowa12/06/17
I generally concur. We have a real problem in this professio cocolawyer12/06/17
Ridiculous and unfun. If you aren't even getting buzzed, the junkwired12/06/17
2000 years ago water was risky to drink. Bacteria and all. P jorgedeclaro12/08/17
Booze is bad for sleep. Go see a sleep doc. massivemissive12/06/17
pills will surely make it all better triplesix12/06/17
http://journals.lww.com/journaladdi ctionmedicine/Fulltext/20 quillan12/06/17
Alcoholism is the norm in the legal profession, your employe trickydick12/06/17
Damn, but "and I’m drunk and I’m not wearing pants. No o inho2solo12/06/17
I don't think 2-3 glasses of wine a night (unless they're re anothernjlawyer12/07/17
Didn't drink at all last night. schopenhauerx9912/07/17
Good. On day at a time, is all. wutwutwut12/07/17
You're not a real attorney without a bottle of whiskey and a shitlawsf12/07/17
Jesus Christ. A couple of glasses of wine before bed is fine confused1l9312/08/17
Doctors say any drinking at all increases your risk for canc fettywap12/08/17
Reading these posts helps me to sleep. aknas12/08/17
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Tell your family you're not soyboy and can handle it. Are t maverick12/08/17
I started that path thinking it would help me sleep. Starte canon8312/08/17

schopenhauerx99 (Dec 5, 2017 - 10:30 pm)

Since work has been picking up, I have found myself drinking a couple of glasses of wine a night. My family is a bit worried but I don’t do it to excess usually (3 glasses is excess) and it’s to help me sleep. What about you?

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bucwild (Dec 6, 2017 - 6:13 am)

"and it’s to help me sleep"

Yeah your family should be concerned. Good luck.

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e36m3 (Dec 5, 2017 - 10:35 pm)

*3 bottles is excess. Fixed that for you.

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wutwutwut (Dec 5, 2017 - 11:05 pm)

If ur doing it for to help you sleep, it's excess.

Face that, then decide what ur gonna do about it.

You can go on doing the same thing for 15 years (and probably graduating to 5 or 6 or 12 glasses over time) while your family quietly learns to disrespect, if not outright despise you.

Or you can face up to sleep now without your ETOH crutch, get over it in a couple weeks, and earn the respect of your family.

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triplesix (Dec 6, 2017 - 9:32 am)

Alcohol is habit forming. It is bad idea to drink during workweek.

If that's what you are gonna do, be a fuking man about it haha.

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trijocker (Dec 6, 2017 - 10:34 am)

What's wrong with two-three glasses of wine?
Jeez, tough crowd, it's not like he's passing out with a bottle of Jack Daniels.

Posted this before, my prof used to say Lawyers are drinkers, not gamblers.
There is no coincidence that the profession is linked with the bar.

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wolfman (Dec 6, 2017 - 10:46 am)

Alcohol right before bed will help you fall asleep, but your sleep quality will suffer, you'll get less REM sleep and you are more likely to wake up earlier and be unable to go back to sleep. How much sleep are you actually getting? Do you feel tired in the mornings? Depending on how your metabolism work, you may be OK with a couple of glasses of wine/night, but much more will definitely mess you up, especially if it's every night...

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boseisaltplace (Dec 6, 2017 - 11:04 am)

Exactly. I can't sleep after a few glasses of wine. I'm wide awake a fews hours later.

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notreallyalawyer (Dec 6, 2017 - 11:49 am)

How can you drink and doc review? You’ll be on the toilet all next day

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cocolawyer (Dec 6, 2017 - 12:36 pm)

Why do you need to drink in Document Review? How stressful is that position?

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tcpaul (Dec 6, 2017 - 12:39 pm)

Although this may not be a problem now, it is well on its way to becoming one.

What were to happen if you didn't have any glasses of wine? Would you feel the pull of the bottle? If you are feeling that pull, that subconscious draw, it's time to put a stop to it before it gets worse. It will only get worse.

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toooldtocare (Dec 6, 2017 - 1:05 pm)

If you are drinking to get to sleep, that's a problem. It's also a problem which has the potential to get much worse, should stress of work be compounded by other life stressors. It sounds like you're ok now, but it might be a good time to get a bit of counseling. If you don't want to do that, make an appointment with your MD, to see if s/he can offer a few tips on stress reduction. They can also recommend additional steps-such as professional counseling-should that be indicated.

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catholiclawyeriowa (Dec 6, 2017 - 1:08 pm)

Well you remember the scripture when Jesus turns water into wine at the wedding? Basically, it is okay to drink alcohol. But it should be at a "pace" where your judgement doesn't get affected, and you are not putting yourself/others in danger. Basically do not get drunk, and if you're anywhere close to being "buzzed" then that's a definite clue to stop and drink water.. I would make sure to stop myself before I am "buzzed" though to be safe.

Also if you're getting drunk socially and are "festive" or relaxing is a lot more acceptable than getting drunk because you are in pain (relationship break up/death in family, loss of job, etc )

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cocolawyer (Dec 6, 2017 - 1:12 pm)

I generally concur. We have a real problem in this profession due to substance abuse. Typically the stress of the job and the conflict of the parties lead to these stressful relationships.

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junkwired (Dec 6, 2017 - 1:39 pm)

Ridiculous and unfun. If you aren't even getting buzzed, then I fail to see the point in drinking any form of alcohol.

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jorgedeclaro (Dec 8, 2017 - 10:16 am)

2000 years ago water was risky to drink. Bacteria and all. People in Jesus' time drank juice or lightly fermented wine so they wouldn't get sick.

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massivemissive (Dec 6, 2017 - 4:14 pm)

Booze is bad for sleep. Go see a sleep doc.

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triplesix (Dec 6, 2017 - 7:35 pm)

pills will surely make it all better

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quillan (Dec 6, 2017 - 5:50 pm)

http://journals.lww.com/journaladdictionmedicine/Fulltext/2016/02000/The_Prevalence_of_Substance_Use_and_Other_Mental.8.aspx

Conclusions: Attorneys experience problematic drinking that is hazardous, harmful, or otherwise consistent with alcohol use disorders at a higher rate than other professional populations. Mental health distress is also significant. These data underscore the need for greater resources for lawyer assistance programs, and also the expansion of available attorney-specific prevention and treatment interventions.

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trickydick (Dec 6, 2017 - 5:57 pm)

Alcoholism is the norm in the legal profession, your employer should be worried if you don’t throw back a couple before brushing your teeth in the morning.

I’m constantly drunk. I’m at a court hearing in front of a judge as I’m posting this and I’m drunk and I’m not wearing pants. No one considers this unusual.

You ever hear about a show called Mad Men? You ever hear about a guy named Don Draper? That’s my life. This is who I am. This is what I do.

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inho2solo (Dec 6, 2017 - 6:38 pm)

Damn, but "and I’m drunk and I’m not wearing pants. No one considers this unusual" was so unexpected that it got a serious LoL out of me.

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anothernjlawyer (Dec 7, 2017 - 11:52 am)

I don't think 2-3 glasses of wine a night (unless they're really big glasses) is going to land you in rehab or the gutter anytime soon, but I also don't think it's a great idea to make a habit out of work-week drinking. Plus, that's a lot of extra sugar.

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schopenhauerx99 (Dec 7, 2017 - 12:08 pm)

Didn't drink at all last night.

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wutwutwut (Dec 7, 2017 - 8:46 pm)

Good. On day at a time, is all.

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shitlawsf (Dec 7, 2017 - 9:27 pm)

You're not a real attorney without a bottle of whiskey and a loaded pistol in your bottom desk drawer. Although in my time in Cali, doobies were an acceptable substitution for the whiskey.

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confused1l93 (Dec 8, 2017 - 10:31 am)

Jesus Christ. A couple of glasses of wine before bed is fine. So may people do this and suffer no problems. However, i would try to be as self aware as I can if I were you. The fact that you felt the need to ask for advice here about your habit is concerning (only slightly). If you find yourself really looking forward to that glass of wine every day I would take a step back. Cheers!

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fettywap (Dec 8, 2017 - 10:40 am)

Doctors say any drinking at all increases your risk for cancer. So I wouldn't say drinking every night is fine.

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aknas (Dec 8, 2017 - 11:34 am)

Reading these posts helps me to sleep.

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onehell (Dec 8, 2017 - 11:49 am)

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maverick (Dec 8, 2017 - 1:43 pm)

Tell your family you're not soyboy and can handle it. Are they Mormon or something? I find people who do not consume alcohol to be deviant and less trustworthy.

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canon83 (Dec 8, 2017 - 4:35 pm)

I started that path thinking it would help me sleep. Started by drinking half a bottle each night the last three weeks of bar prep. The night before the written exam portion, out of anxiety I drank a full bottle and threw up at 4 am and took the test hung over and tired. For three months I was suicidal for I thought I had surely failed. The drinking continued until I found out I passed. I then quit cold turkey.

It was also helpful to know that I spent almost $2,000 on wine and alcohol during this four month period.

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