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LSAC report on mean LSAT of all undergrads

https://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/ data/top-240-feeder-schoo originallarry12/14/17
Very interesting. Where did you find this? bizzybone131312/14/17
Is there an "overall" or "total" row? My undergrad did as thirdtierlaw12/14/17
More importantly, who are these people who got a 120? Did th downwardslope12/14/17
Don't know, but next year Tiffany Trump will be the lowest s dingbat12/15/17
UCs did not score that well sadly. UC Riverside posted a 2. trijocker12/14/17
UCs are state schools... ? Unless you mean Cal States? (But muaddib12/15/17
Fascinating stuff, thanks for posting. Between them, UCLA cacrimdefense12/14/17
It makes me cringe to see how below average I did on the LSA themapmaster12/15/17
What struck me was how relatively few schools had anyone sco inho2solo12/15/17
Beat my school's mean by 22 points (assuming these numbers a dietcoke12/15/17
Looks like I was 18% above the current mean for my supposedl wolfman12/15/17
Check out the URM (basically all AAs) section on TLS for lol junkwired12/15/17
UNIVERSITY OF PUERTO RICO - RIO PIEDRAS had a 120 score. isthisit12/15/17
The historically black colleges are producing test taker sco cacrimdefense12/15/17
U. Puerto Rico - Rio Piedras and Southern University - Baton dietcoke12/15/17
Southern University (which I had never heard of until a few wolfman12/15/17
I'm surprised my cheap socialist urban public college did so therewillbeblood12/15/17
I have no idea where you are from or where you went to schoo wolfman12/15/17
Most school's median GPA is very low..... mrlollipop12/18/17
originallarry (Dec 14, 2017 - 7:16 pm)

https://www.lsac.org/lsacresources/data/top-240-feeder-schools/2015-2016-accessible

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bizzybone1313 (Dec 14, 2017 - 7:41 pm)

Very interesting. Where did you find this?

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thirdtierlaw (Dec 14, 2017 - 7:40 pm)

Is there an "overall" or "total" row?

My undergrad did as expected. Well but not superb.

But I want to know who it was from Harvard that scored at 146 lol.

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downwardslope (Dec 14, 2017 - 8:03 pm)

More importantly, who are these people who got a 120? Did they go in and then literally pass out after signing the cursive part? As a person who has forsaken cursive, I can attest to the difficulty of that part of the exam, but really?

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dingbat (Dec 15, 2017 - 10:26 am)

Don't know, but next year Tiffany Trump will be the lowest score at Georgetown

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trijocker (Dec 14, 2017 - 7:48 pm)

UCs did not score that well sadly.
UC Riverside posted a 2.9, Davis a 3.1.
You might as well go to a state college with numbers like that.

These college stats may change since the LSAC now allows unlimited LSAC retakes, unless you think that IQ and test performance will not change with unlimited retakes.

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muaddib (Dec 15, 2017 - 2:08 pm)

UCs are state schools... ? Unless you mean Cal States? (But look at all the CSUs even worse numbers.)

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cacrimdefense (Dec 14, 2017 - 8:51 pm)

Fascinating stuff, thanks for posting.

Between them, UCLA, Cal and USC are combining to crank out 1400+ law school applicants a year.

On the other side of the country in Florida, however, FL, FSU, FL Int'l and Central FL are churning out 2000+ annually. And FL Int'l (A school about which I know nothing) is really producing some crappy marks in large numbers. Geez, the average LSAT score from a student at that campus is just over 147.

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I did a little checking. Now I get it. FIU, from a "diversity" standpoint, is the Cal State L.A. or Cal State Northridge of the Sunshine State.

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themapmaster (Dec 15, 2017 - 2:45 am)

It makes me cringe to see how below average I did on the LSAT relative to the mean from my undergraduate college.

Not easy to stomach, but enlightening. Nice find.

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inho2solo (Dec 15, 2017 - 7:49 am)

What struck me was how relatively few schools had anyone scoring a 180, especially with so many having 200-400 takers.


You'd think that there would be at least one really fart smucker in a group that size.

And LoL at the school that fields a "highest" score of 151 from a group of 50+ takers.

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dietcoke (Dec 15, 2017 - 11:40 am)

Beat my school's mean by 22 points (assuming these numbers are similar to 2014).

Doesn't surprise me. Was a little mouth breathy.

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wolfman (Dec 15, 2017 - 12:34 pm)

Looks like I was 18% above the current mean for my supposedly Very Prestigious school (GPA was way lower though), for all the good it did me.

It didn't use to be this way, but I'm pretty sure the people going to LS from there now are either rich and lazy preppies with major social anxiety issues (the ones w/out them do startup investing now) or real lower-class losers who are just in a panic and don't know what else to do. Sad.

Oh and the Harvard kid who scored a 146? Probably an AA admit who never had to take standardized tests and did well on writing essays about "feelings" and such. Will do OK in life if he (or most likely she) has impeccable social skills, is outgoing, stays impeccably PC and never ever falls of the fast track to something like a Chief Diversity Officer. A step off that, and you have a crazy derelict ranting about "racism" while filing multiple pro-se lawsuits (there are people like that with JDs as well, of course... who do you think the old/new no-LSAT track in law schools is designed to bring in?). The sad thing is, these folks are actually being completely robbed of any chance at a meaningful life so other people can assuage their narcissistic guilt trips, under the guise of "helping."

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junkwired (Dec 15, 2017 - 3:21 pm)

Check out the URM (basically all AAs) section on TLS for lolz.

http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=14

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isthisit (Dec 15, 2017 - 1:00 pm)

UNIVERSITY OF PUERTO RICO - RIO PIEDRAS had a 120 score.

I guess mi gente don't test well.

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cacrimdefense (Dec 15, 2017 - 2:33 pm)

The historically black colleges are producing test taker scores similar to what the students at UPR are racking up.

The info provided in the posted link is almost like supplementary or reference material one would expect to find annotations for in The Bell Curve, by Murray and Hernstein.

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dietcoke (Dec 15, 2017 - 4:32 pm)

U. Puerto Rico - Rio Piedras and Southern University - Baton Rouge are neck-and-neck for two years for lowest mean LSAT score (mean scores of 139.19, 139.38, 140.02 and 139.3). PR students presumably speak Spanish, but what excuse do students in Baton Rouge have? Incidentally, for both years, those same Southern University students have the lowest mean GPA at 2.74 and 2.77. Any law school that admits these students should be instantly unaccredited and all associated deans/professors arrested.

Unsurprisingly, Yale had the highest mean LSAT both years (166.6 and 168.88) but lol at jealous people saying Yale-ies are just spoiled rich kids. Harvard not far behind in #2 position with 167.37/167.99.

Respect your betters.

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wolfman (Dec 15, 2017 - 4:42 pm)

Southern University (which I had never heard of until a few weeks ago) apparently also has a law school; for my recent encounter with an alumnus's work product see: http://www.jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=146410

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therewillbeblood (Dec 15, 2017 - 4:50 pm)

I'm surprised my cheap socialist urban public college did so well. We even had a max 179.

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wolfman (Dec 15, 2017 - 5:04 pm)

I have no idea where you are from or where you went to school, but I will gess right now that your school has a large feeder population of poor immigrants from East Asia or formerly socialist Eastern Europe, or both.

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mrlollipop (Dec 18, 2017 - 1:33 am)

Most school's median GPA is very low.....

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