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Just made the leap from Compliance to In-House.

Hi everyone. I just successfully made the leap from complian kemken01/02/18
How do you make the leap from Family Law to an in-house role cocolawyer01/02/18
I did it. Still can't make sense of it. supesnation01/02/18
impossible I call shenanigans. cocolawyer01/02/18
Nope. It actually happened. supesnation01/03/18
Leverage a potential sexual harassment case into gainful in- isthisit01/02/18
How were you able to find the position? What qualifications mera8801/02/18
The position was made for me in the same company where I hel kemken01/02/18
What regulatory framework did you work in before you moved i phillydoucherocket01/02/18
I worked in international trade (CBP, ITAR, EAR, ATF), FDA r kemken01/02/18
kemken, if I understand right, you had an in-house complianc inho2solo01/02/18
Yes, that's correct. I had a trade compliance role and moved kemken01/03/18
Congrats! Pay cut or take home stayed same? justdoingok01/03/18
Actually, take home jumped quite a bit (about 35%). That was kemken01/03/18
What are your credentials and career path prior to getting t loblawyer01/03/18
I got the trade compliance job less than a month after gradu kemken01/03/18
Congrats, your hard work paid off. turde01/10/18
kemken (Jan 2, 2018 - 3:18 pm)

Hi everyone. I just successfully made the leap from compliance to an in-house role. Wanted to know if others were trying to do the same and if they had any questions or comments. I'll offer any advice I may have.

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cocolawyer (Jan 2, 2018 - 3:28 pm)

How do you make the leap from Family Law to an in-house role? If you can answer that question you are truly a wizard.

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supesnation (Jan 2, 2018 - 3:31 pm)

I did it. Still can't make sense of it.

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cocolawyer (Jan 2, 2018 - 8:06 pm)

impossible I call shenanigans.

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supesnation (Jan 3, 2018 - 3:04 pm)

Nope. It actually happened.

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isthisit (Jan 2, 2018 - 4:30 pm)

Leverage a potential sexual harassment case into gainful in-house employment.

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mera88 (Jan 2, 2018 - 3:38 pm)

How were you able to find the position? What qualifications do you think helped?

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kemken (Jan 2, 2018 - 3:57 pm)

The position was made for me in the same company where I held the compliance role. I was basically performing in-house duties already, so it was a formalization of a role I had taken on.

More generally, I think good contract review and drafting skills help. Also, if you are trying to market yourself more generally, I think that M&A, employment, and securities are must-haves. I also cannot stress enough how much networking can put you in touch with the right people.

If you have any other specific questions, please let me know.

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phillydoucherocket (Jan 2, 2018 - 4:35 pm)

What regulatory framework did you work in before you moved in-house?

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kemken (Jan 2, 2018 - 6:42 pm)

I worked in international trade (CBP, ITAR, EAR, ATF), FDA regs specifically with food, and environmental, health, and safety regs and policy.

I made sure to dive into the different business units and make myself indispensable. I worked closely with our safety department on writing policy and regulatory compliance, and even completed a Hazmat training. Also worked closely with the scientists on a few issues that were really complicated, which allowed me to dive into FDA regs and learn the business at a more fundamental level.

The international trade stuff is still a big part of my job and is my real specialty.

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inho2solo (Jan 2, 2018 - 8:49 pm)

kemken, if I understand right, you had an in-house compliance (maybe trade compliance?, but anyway a non-lawyer required if JD-advantage role) and then moved in the same company to an in-house counsel legal role?

Congrats to you!

I don't think this happens too very often; big feather in your hat.

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kemken (Jan 3, 2018 - 9:43 pm)

Yes, that's correct. I had a trade compliance role and moved to an in-house role in the same organization. I worked for a corporate counsel who always let me work on other issues and also referred to me as an attorney when we worked with other business units. I credit that with grooming me for the step up.

And you're right, it doesn't happen very often. It was kind of a "right place, right time" kind of thing for me

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justdoingok (Jan 3, 2018 - 7:33 am)

Congrats! Pay cut or take home stayed same?

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kemken (Jan 3, 2018 - 9:45 pm)

Actually, take home jumped quite a bit (about 35%). That was a amazing considering I wasn't doing too bad before the move. It's just that the company knew I had been underpaid while in the compliance role and wanted to show their appreciation for me taking on new duties for so long without the compensation to match.

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loblawyer (Jan 3, 2018 - 12:33 pm)

What are your credentials and career path prior to getting the compliance job? Those seem hard enough to get much less transitioning once in the door. Did you have relevant pre-law experience or a useful degree?

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kemken (Jan 3, 2018 - 9:51 pm)

I got the trade compliance job less than a month after graduating law school. I had an interesting background in military/government law (interned for JAG, at the pentagon, and other state/federal agencies). While in the JAG internship, I studied government contracting under a retired general who was also an attorney. He even let me run my own contracts and work them up.

So when I applied for the trade compliance role with a government contractor, the head attorney, who was a former JAG captain, really liked my government contracting experience and hired me with no trade compliance experience. I learned so much at that job.

I then transitioned from that role to a higher trade compliance role with a multi-national food corporation, which led to the current in-house position.

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turde (Jan 10, 2018 - 7:05 pm)

Congrats, your hard work paid off.

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