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Issue Spotting

I created a video on issue spotting and would like some feed beaubaez02/21/18
Beau, it's really nice of you to help out like that. I' jeffm02/21/18
You are the second person in two days to suggest the same th beaubaez02/22/18
By the way, I took your advice and created a video where I g beaubaez03/01/18
I watched it. It's good for showing a fixed snapshot of an jeffm03/01/18
Good idea. I'll probably have to do it in stages. Otherwise beaubaez03/14/18
beaubaez (Feb 21, 2018 - 8:23 pm)

I created a video on issue spotting and would like some feedback: https://youtu.be/thn9GUc2nXg I'm curious if there are other strategies for spotting issues on exam day that I missed. Thanks.

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jeffm (Feb 21, 2018 - 9:07 pm)

Beau, it's really nice of you to help out like that.

I've been licensed a long time. Looking back on my law school days, I would have loved a video like this if after describing all those strategies, you grabbed an example essay question and demonstrated all of them in action. Start with just the essay question and a blank piece of paper. Start outlining and using all the other strategies you described.

It's one thing to listen to the strategies being described, but for people like me, it's another thing altogether to actually see them being performed mechanically in real time - like if I could just look over your shoulder as you take the test. I think I would be better parroting your approach if I saw you do it.

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beaubaez (Feb 22, 2018 - 10:05 am)

You are the second person in two days to suggest the same thing. I've never done a video screen capture, but will figure that out. Makes sense to show someone how to do something. Thanks for prodding me to get this done.

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beaubaez (Mar 1, 2018 - 11:02 am)

By the way, I took your advice and created a video where I grade an exam: https://youtu.be/D_jms0ocgJ8 Again, thanks for the advice.

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jeffm (Mar 1, 2018 - 7:10 pm)

I watched it. It's good for showing a fixed snapshot of an answer and how a grading professor goes through it. It doesn't show how the test-taking "strategies" are implemented.

For that, you'd actually have to do the work yourself and show it in stages of completion.

For example, first, marking the test itself with notes, underlines, circles, etc. in order to get ready to make an outline.

Then, creating an outline from the notes and leaving ample space where you can insert more "issues" to be covered in the right sections, such as adding "frolic" beneath the "respondeat superior" branch in the outline.

Make a few passes up and down the outline and compare the outline to the essay question to be sure your outline hits all the points of significance. For example, if the outline doesn't show anything about employer/employment, the student would be missing an important fact because the essay question, itself, mentions employment.

Then, once the outline looks like it hits all the points, start writing the answer in paragraph form.

Notes/marks --> Outline --> Compare outline to essay --> Repeat until ready to write --> Write

(Plus, whatever other strategies you want to show as well).

That's the type of thing I've never seen done but would have liked to see as a student.

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beaubaez (Mar 14, 2018 - 9:26 pm)

Good idea. I'll probably have to do it in stages. Otherwise I'll have a 1 hour long video. Thanks again.

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