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Savannah Law School

I have been thinking about attending law school this Fall an georgiapeach02/28/18
Get a free or almost free ride with scholarships. lawnotforme02/28/18
On the off chance this isn't a joke, go to the highest ranke ericcrapton02/28/18
It's a branch of the worst law school in the state (John Mar dogdaypm02/28/18
I'm a practicing attorney in Atlanta, and I've spent most of bucwild02/28/18
haha, that's funny that even an ATL lawyer's never heard of dogdaypm02/28/18
The school only opened a few years ago but it has gotten ind georgiapeach03/01/18
"They ...told me most if not all their friends had found wor dogdaypm03/01/18
From what I can tell, you’re at median in GPA/LSAT for UGA martinvannostrand03/01/18
I'm pretty sure these days 3.7/162 can get you big money or 3lol03/01/18
I'm hoping to get a full or practically full scholarship to georgiapeach03/01/18
My sister lives in Savannah so I briefly looked into summer ttttescapee03/01/18
Also, not sure who told you "it has gotten independent ABA a dogdaypm03/01/18
If you have a 162 why are you going to a dumpster fire? The cocolawyer03/01/18
I'm not dead set on attending SLS but I posted about it here georgiapeach03/01/18
You have to remember that your definition of "success after blackholelaw03/01/18
This is the truth. bucwild03/01/18
That would be like me saying that people at Florida coastal downwardslope03/01/18
Strong in this one, the data aversion is. dogdaypm03/01/18
Take it from Yoda! jeffm03/01/18
OP, you have done very well in undergrad. It is deserving o jeffm03/01/18
Thanks for the thoughtful reply, Jeff. As I said earlier in georgiapeach03/02/18
If I was you, I would call the dean of admissions of Savanna jeffm03/02/18
Good stats do not guarantee law school success. You can miss trollfeeder03/05/18
Done-Done-Done-DONE. wutwutwut03/22/18
OP: you literally dodged a bullet. By a near-miracle. I don' wolfman03/22/18
I'd never seen the hand of God before this. Would love f mrtor03/23/18
I acknowledge defeat. I can only say I'm thankful I did not georgiapeach03/23/18
You also should've taken those 20 minutes to research. At le bucwild03/23/18

georgiapeach (Feb 28, 2018 - 5:51 pm)

I have been thinking about attending law school this Fall and would like to stay in state (Georgia). I am interested in Savannah Law School and was wondering if anyone has heard of it. My stats are 3.7 UGPA (Poly Sci) and 162 LSAT. I have always loved the city of Savannah but don't know if it's a good idea for law school

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lawnotforme (Feb 28, 2018 - 6:11 pm)

Get a free or almost free ride with scholarships.

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ericcrapton (Feb 28, 2018 - 6:20 pm)

On the off chance this isn't a joke, go to the highest ranked school you can get into. If that means the highest ranked school in Georgia, then fine. You can return to Savannah with your fancy law degree.

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dogdaypm (Feb 28, 2018 - 6:41 pm)

It's a branch of the worst law school in the state (John Marshall of Atlanta); about 30% get long term, full time law jobs.

Retake the LSAT, get mid 170s, use that to get as much money as you can at UGA or GSU. Or if URM, use it to get a free ride at Emory.

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bucwild (Feb 28, 2018 - 7:45 pm)

I'm a practicing attorney in Atlanta, and I've spent most of my life here. I didn't even know there was law school in Savannah. Take that for what you will.

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dogdaypm (Feb 28, 2018 - 9:38 pm)

haha, that's funny that even an ATL lawyer's never heard of it. But you went to a really good LS if I recall your prior comments.

Like I alluded to above, Savannah is a small branch or satellite for John Marshall to try to scrape in a few more million in GradPlus loan monies, from low-credentialed applicants not willing to move to the ATL (or Athens) for LS.

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georgiapeach (Mar 1, 2018 - 8:32 am)

The school only opened a few years ago but it has gotten independent ABA accreditation. My dream is to practice law in the Savannah area and I believe it can place young lawyers in the region. I was skeptical but did some digging. I found a few recent graduates on LinkedIn and spoke with them on the phone. They were very encouraging and told me most if not all their friends had found work after graduating. I know it's easy to simply dismiss the school as third tier but at this point I think it's more of an unknown quantity. I also wouldn't classify it as a diploma mill because they have restricted their class size to about ~40 every year.

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dogdaypm (Mar 1, 2018 - 11:21 am)

"They ...told me most if not all their friends had found work after graduating"

That doesn't match** the school's required ABA disclosures, unless the people you spoke to only have friends in the ~ 1/3 of grads who had legal jobs. You can find the ABA required employment statistics on the schools web page.

Don't go by anecdotes, is all I'm saying. The data are available. Avail yourself of them.

** Unless by "found work" they were including jobs doing something other getting into a law firm.

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martinvannostrand (Mar 1, 2018 - 9:00 am)

From what I can tell, you’re at median in GPA/LSAT for UGA. Alternatively, you could retake and get your LSAT up and try to get money as a previous poster suggested.

Is UGA off the table for you for some reason?

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3lol (Mar 1, 2018 - 9:36 am)

I'm pretty sure these days 3.7/162 can get you big money or even a full ride at a lot of schools.

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georgiapeach (Mar 1, 2018 - 9:39 am)

I'm hoping to get a full or practically full scholarship to Savannah Law School. Especially if my goal is to practice in the city I'd rather go there with minimal debt than take on a larger burden at UGA.

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ttttescapee (Mar 1, 2018 - 11:26 am)

My sister lives in Savannah so I briefly looked into summer jobs in the area. Browsing firm profiles, my impression is that if you aren't a local who went to UGA you will never be hired.

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dogdaypm (Mar 1, 2018 - 11:27 am)

Also, not sure who told you "it has gotten independent ABA accreditation", but below indicates instead that it is recognized "as an approved branch campus of the fully approved Atlanta's John Marshall Law School", rather than being an independently accredited school.

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/legal_education/accreditation/accreditation_archives.html

While this is not a big deal (independent accreditation vs. approved branch of another accredited school), I point it out just to say again, rely on data, data, data.

If someone is selling you a horse and tells you it has 4 legs, don't take their word for it. Count `em yourself.


HIGHLY applaud your overall plan to go without taking on much (or hopefully no) debt. If you can't get a non-stipulated full tuition discount from SLS, again suggest you retake LSAT and shoot for +170.

If you got a 162, unless you already put a heroic effort into getting that, you may be able to considerably improve on a second try.

I do not believe it harms you to have a second score that is lower than your first, but of course please verify this yourself just to be sure if you do consider retaking.

Best of luck to you!

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cocolawyer (Mar 1, 2018 - 1:04 pm)

If you have a 162 why are you going to a dumpster fire? The scores to get into good schools have plummeted in the past 7 years not increased. For instance garbage schools like Cooley's median went from 155 to 138 in 7 years. Even T-50 schools have gone down by about 10 median scores. A 162 should get you into at least at TT or T1 school.

Unless you get a full ride and whole purpose in life is to open your own shingle, I would avoid.

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georgiapeach (Mar 1, 2018 - 2:45 pm)

I'm not dead set on attending SLS but I posted about it here because I wanted to know if anyone knew about it. I think people tend to compare it to John Marshall in Atlanta, but perhaps that's not fair because it's in a different market and students seem to have some success after attending.

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blackholelaw (Mar 1, 2018 - 3:09 pm)

You have to remember that your definition of "success after attending" comes from a sample size of people you found on LinkedIn. It's probably a safe bet that if you were a member of the 70% who didn't find jobs after graduation, you wouldn't be on LinkedIn at all, and if you were, you wouldn't be listing your law school.

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bucwild (Mar 1, 2018 - 3:42 pm)

This is the truth.

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downwardslope (Mar 1, 2018 - 4:10 pm)

That would be like me saying that people at Florida coastal or Cooley generally do well because I have worked with people who went there and were able to do relatively well in state and federal government jobs. Obviously I am only meeting the people who found the jobs, not the hundreds who are jobless or who could not pass the bar at all.

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dogdaypm (Mar 1, 2018 - 4:13 pm)

Strong in this one, the data aversion is.

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jeffm (Mar 1, 2018 - 7:22 pm)

Take it from Yoda!

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jeffm (Mar 1, 2018 - 7:49 pm)

OP, you have done very well in undergrad. It is deserving of admission into a very good school if that's what you want. If it will cost you dearly and you are not wealthy and don't have someone footing the bill for you, I can see the logic of going into a lower-tiered school in exchange for a full ride or something close to it. But even then, the logic is limited in its real-life application.

I know people who went to bottom-rung schools who came out and wound up ultimately doing just fine. I've seen some from great schools, like Harvard and UT, basically just flop.

If your intent is to go solo or start your own firm, every law license is the same. All you need to do is get your hands on one.

If you want a job, just be prepared for people to compete with you whose resumes will look better than yours - all because of the name of the school they attended. When you are in the bottom tier, the majority of applicants will look better on paper than you. That can be tough to overcome.

In other words, if you go to this school, you'd better be prepared to be *forced* to go solo. Or you better have connections to people who like you and want to help you, despite the fact they could choose from many other applicants whose resumes look better than yours.

If you think you might not have the stomach to go solo and you don't have a parent/uncle/friend who'll get you started in practice, you should think long and hard about this decision. There are a lot of people who really did waste their time and huge money going to law school - and that includes many who went to much better schools than what you propose.

Don't just go in thinking everything will work out. Employers are sophisticated enough to know and care about the school you attend. On the other hand, run of the mill clients are not so concerned about your school. They are not hiring a full-time employer and many are not sophisticated to ask all these questions.

So, again, if you decide to attend Savannah and you're one of those people who needs to land a job after graduation, you might start trying to get to know people who are willing to overlook your resume in order to help you get your start.

Bottom line: Attendance at those schools is more well-suited for people who will go solo or who have connections.

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georgiapeach (Mar 2, 2018 - 8:39 am)

Thanks for the thoughtful reply, Jeff. As I said earlier in this thread I am not determined to go to Savannah and I may wind up taking a year off to improve my LSAT and get into a better school. I've heard the conventional wisdom about attending third tier schools before and it's quite rational.

I guess I was hoping to hear from someone who has first hand experience with this school or could provide specific insight into practicing in Savannah. Also, I know it's not a guaranteed thing but with my stats I'm confident I can be at the top of my class at the school so you would think someone would hire the top student from a local LS.

I know the obvious counterpoint is not to bank my career on being first in my class, but it's a risk I'm considering.

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jeffm (Mar 2, 2018 - 9:17 am)

If I was you, I would call the dean of admissions of Savannah and set up an informal meeting. Go there with your undergrad transcript and proof of your lsat score. Tell them you are seriously interested in Savanna if the money is right and that you are planning on applying to higher-ranked schools as well. Ask them, point blank, what they can do for you scholarship-wise to help you go there.

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trollfeeder (Mar 5, 2018 - 7:52 pm)

Good stats do not guarantee law school success. You can miss a few things on an exam, and a few people jump you in line, and all of sudden you aren't as special as you thought. Then again if you want to stay in the immediate area, and you get a full scholly, you might be fine. It's a much greater risk than going to a better school though.

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wutwutwut (Mar 22, 2018 - 1:17 pm)

Done-Done-Done-DONE.

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wolfman (Mar 22, 2018 - 1:25 pm)

OP: you literally dodged a bullet. By a near-miracle. I don't care what your religious view are, say a prayer of thanks.

Now you see how bad the information you were operating with was: you were arguing in favor of going to this school for the next three years, and it was literally on the verge of going completely belly up.

Learn from this. Don't make the same mistake and give your $ and time to some other set of shysters. Be smart.

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mrtor (Mar 23, 2018 - 9:25 am)

I'd never seen the hand of God before this.

Would love for OP to return and acknowledge defeat.

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georgiapeach (Mar 23, 2018 - 9:39 am)

I acknowledge defeat. I can only say I'm thankful I did not apply to the school or give it any more serious consideration than an anonymous inquiry on this board. I feel bad for current students, but they probably should have taken 20 minutes to research how poor a school this was before taking the plunge.

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bucwild (Mar 23, 2018 - 2:10 pm)

You also should've taken those 20 minutes to research. At least you dodged this bullet.

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