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What are the easiest state's bar exam to pass?

Anyone know? Someone asked me, and I just know it's not CA o trijocker03/07/18
I think I heard Nebraska just had the MBE at some point but downwardslope03/07/18
California and Nevada. trickydick03/07/18
Any state at 260: http://www.ncbex.org/exams/ube/scor e-po khazaddum03/07/18
These five states look the easiest Alabama, Minnesota, Miss trijocker03/07/18
The UBE is 50% weight on the MBE multiple choice, 25% of the khazaddum03/07/18
the MBE is a component of the UBE. All UBE states use the MB dietcoke03/07/18
Sadly the person wanted to take the test this summer I just trijocker03/07/18
Any and all UBE states. Sure the pass rates vary, but the UB thirdtierlaw03/07/18
New Jersey isthisit03/07/18
Most people probably know this, but since at least some do n wolfman03/07/18
I heard D.C. is pretty easy to pass. blakesq03/08/18
Can you sit for the DC exam prior to doing a character and f trijocker03/08/18
Dunno about DC, but you can take the UBE in NY before doing wolfman03/08/18
It looks like NY requires you submit two moral affidavits wi trijocker03/08/18
I took and "passed" the UBE in NY in July, so I am probably wolfman03/08/18
Did you take and pass the NY law course required by the NY B trijocker03/08/18
"Did you take and pass the NY law course required by the NY wolfman03/08/18
The NY part is pretty easy. Know your statutes of limitation doctorseuss03/09/18
any idiot can pass. You take the test online, so just goo dingbat03/11/18
Wisconson. If you graduate from a Wisconson law school you d cocolawyer03/09/18
They do however have this very difficult test where you have gilles03/19/18
The two exams I teach are the UBE and the Florida Bar Exam. barexamhelp03/17/18
Which is easier the UBE or the Florida Bar exam? Lots of st trijocker03/17/18
In my opinion the UBE is easier. It's just more manageable barexamhelp03/19/18

trijocker (Mar 7, 2018 - 3:24 pm)

Anyone know? Someone asked me, and I just know it's not CA or Texas.

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downwardslope (Mar 7, 2018 - 3:27 pm)

I think I heard Nebraska just had the MBE at some point but that may have changed. I remember someone was in some fed law job and could not pass and they told her to take the bar there.

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trickydick (Mar 7, 2018 - 3:38 pm)

California and Nevada.

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khazaddum (Mar 7, 2018 - 3:54 pm)

Any state at 260:

http://www.ncbex.org/exams/ube/score-portability/minimum-scores/

UBE is easy because it is the same test in every jurisdiction for the most part. The ones at 260 require 260 out of 400 points to pass. Or 65%.

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trijocker (Mar 7, 2018 - 4:54 pm)

These five states look the easiest
Alabama, Minnesota, Missouri, New Mexico, North Dakota only require 260 on the UBE.
What is the difference between the UBE and MBE? I thought almost every state used the MBE.

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khazaddum (Mar 7, 2018 - 4:56 pm)

The UBE is 50% weight on the MBE multiple choice, 25% of the topical essays, 25% on the hypothetical/memo performance test.

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dietcoke (Mar 7, 2018 - 5:08 pm)

the MBE is a component of the UBE. All UBE states use the MBE, but not all MBE states use the UBE.

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trijocker (Mar 7, 2018 - 5:28 pm)

Sadly the person wanted to take the test this summer
I just checked a couple of the easier states and the filing deadline was Feb 1.
I guess they'll just have to take the Ca bar exam and sit for the easier states next February.

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thirdtierlaw (Mar 7, 2018 - 4:57 pm)

Any and all UBE states. Sure the pass rates vary, but the UBE requires you to study many fewer topics than most individual state bar exams. It is also primarily based on 1L classes, so the tester has already been exposed to the information once before.

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isthisit (Mar 7, 2018 - 5:03 pm)

New Jersey

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wolfman (Mar 7, 2018 - 6:21 pm)

Most people probably know this, but since at least some do not: UBE is a non-state specific exam that basically tests you on US common law. Half your score is the MBE multiple choice day; the other half is split between a bunch of essays (6?) and 2 MPT practice questions - which is essentially a timed writing and analysis test, with all "law" being provided for you. Different states have different pass scores for UBE and sometimes also require a state-specific test on top of it that you can take later (those are usually really easy and open book). For more details, Google is your friend.

UBE used to be only in a few states, but in the past few years it has spread, including in NY, which used to take pride in its "hard" exam (a bunch of state-specific garbage that fed a cottage industry of preparers IMHO).

I'm a huge fan of the UBE - first, because it gives more weight to the MBE portion, not essay BS, and it has a more substantial MPT - which actually tests your writing. I'm biased though, since I took and "passed" the UBE on the first try a year after NY started offering it (technically, no one fails, since you get a number score and it's not a pass/fail test, but you need a 266 to qualify for NY admission, 260 in some other "easier" states like Missouri). Colorado has the highest required score, I think, at 270+ something.

I'd been out of LS for close to a decade, and passed while working full-time and only studying at night, with an old Kaplan book, but I am sort of an unusual person - really good at standardized multiple-choice tests, pretty good at timed writing, and really BAD at learning "the Law" and using what I learn for IRAC essays (mine were basically made-up garbage; still "passed" though; I don't believe I would pass an essay-heavy exam). So, in a way, I think the UBE really favors people like me (who often have bad LS grades, and one could plausibly argue should not have gone to LS at all), and disfavors "good" law students... but these typically have firm jobs that pay for BARBRI and so will pass anyhow.

States that have not adopted the UBE use state-specific tests with less weight being given to the MBE (usually). I think they suck, and know little about them (FL is one, CA, of course, is another). Louisiana doesn't use the MBE at all - civil law.

If I were looking for an easy pass, I would take the UBE and look into getting admitted in Missouri, which only wants 260, as an out-of-state applicant. I don't know if they require a state-specific exam (if so, those are easy), and their C&F is supposed to be... forgiving.

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blakesq (Mar 8, 2018 - 10:29 am)

I heard D.C. is pretty easy to pass.

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trijocker (Mar 8, 2018 - 10:52 am)

Can you sit for the DC exam prior to doing a character and fitness exam?
CA lets you take the test to see if you pass before the examination of character.

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wolfman (Mar 8, 2018 - 11:06 am)

Dunno about DC, but you can take the UBE in NY before doing C&F and transfer the score within 3 years to anywhere that accepts UBE... I believe DC has either gone to UBE or is going to it soon.

EDIT: yes, DC has adopted UBE since July 2016, apparently.

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trijocker (Mar 8, 2018 - 11:19 am)

It looks like NY requires you submit two moral affidavits with the application, not that you can just sign up for the bar exam and do the morality later.

http://www.nybarexam.org/admission/Sept2014/Part%20II_MoralCharacter_Sept2014.pdf

Also NY requires some 50 hours of Pro Bono certificate

50 Hour Pro Bono Requirement
Applicants for admission are also required to provide proof of compliance with the new Mandatory 50-Hour Pro Bono Requirement. For information on the requirement please visit: http://www.nycourts.gov/attorneys/probono/baradmissionreqs.shtml

Does anyone who has recently sat for the NY bar no if these are required prior to taking the test?

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wolfman (Mar 8, 2018 - 11:38 am)

I took and "passed" the UBE in NY in July, so I am probably the person with the most recent info. Good news: NEITHER of these is required before the test, it's all after, along with the state law class and state exam. You need to verify you graduated from an ABA-accredited LS, and submit a handwriting sample, I believe, if you are handwriting the exam. Other than that, you pay $250 and are good to go (take the UBE, that is). Unless you are a foreign LLM, in wich case it's lots more paperwork and $750, yeah, sorry (though I know LLMs who were admitted just fine with their 1-year US degree and free law diploma from Eastern European Institute of Dairy Farming and Jurisprudence, so perhaps the joke is on us:-)

In other words, you apply for admission in NY AFTER the exam, not before. And I am pretty sure you/your friend can still sign up for this July. Just do everything through the BOLE website, don't bother with the courts and whatnot.

WARNING: if you are an out of state applicant and think you'll take the exam in NYC, think again... you can luck out (or quickly change your slot after the assignments are made) but out-of-staters usually go to Albany or Buffalo.

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trijocker (Mar 8, 2018 - 3:01 pm)

Did you take and pass the NY law course required by the NY Bar?

https://www.newyorklawcourse.org/

I think I did hear of someone being turned down for the nyc location and having to take the test in Albany. Of course you could just take another state's bar and have the UBE sent to NY.

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wolfman (Mar 8, 2018 - 3:43 pm)

"Did you take and pass the NY law course required by the NY Bar?"

No, I haven't done that yet, but it's supposed to be easy; I also need to take the MPRE and do the 50-hour public service thing...

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doctorseuss (Mar 9, 2018 - 3:32 pm)

The NY part is pretty easy. Know your statutes of limitations and civil procedure timelines. That's generally about half of it.

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dingbat (Mar 11, 2018 - 4:33 pm)

any idiot can pass.

You take the test online, so just google the answer to every question

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cocolawyer (Mar 9, 2018 - 6:24 pm)

Wisconson. If you graduate from a Wisconson law school you don't even need to take the bar..thats pretty easy.

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gilles (Mar 19, 2018 - 3:24 pm)

They do however have this very difficult test where you have to correctly write out the word "Wisconsin"

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barexamhelp (Mar 17, 2018 - 10:47 pm)

The two exams I teach are the UBE and the Florida Bar Exam. I also taught the NY Bar Exam for some years prior to it switching over to the UBE. What makes the UBE so much more manageable is that there aren't any state-law distinctions to know; it might seem insignificant but it's a huge pain after learning so many subjects to then also have to learn distinctions to all the MBE subjects in case your state tests you on an MBE subject on the essays.

It'll be nice if/when all states switch over to the UBE; not sure it'll happen anytime soon, though.

Sean (Silverman Bar Exam Tutoring)

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trijocker (Mar 17, 2018 - 11:20 pm)

Which is easier the UBE or the Florida Bar exam?
Lots of states like NY do have a state specific component to pass as well as the UBE.

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barexamhelp (Mar 19, 2018 - 10:54 am)

In my opinion the UBE is easier. It's just more manageable and you can wrap your head around it more easily since there are less subjects to learn.

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