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https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/View Details/495347400 I th downwardslope04/02/18
You are correct and will be applying kramer71604/03/18
Strange. This doesn't pop up in search. Is it hidden from th silvere204/02/18
It actually is an option, but that one was just from the sea downwardslope04/03/18
Those cities are really cold. t3success04/03/18
And GS-11 or 12 does not go very far in Mpls. Good for a ne walterscrewedme04/04/18
You can start working overtime pretty quickly and it is avai downwardslope04/04/18
Can you WFH? Having to work and commute to downtown mpls and walterscrewedme04/05/18
After a year it is 3 days a week. downwardslope04/05/18
Downwardslope, yes, I am applying again. It seems even more mch9804/06/18
I applied as well. I didn't buy the whole only posting on la kramer71604/06/18
SSA sounds much better than the VA. It appears the VA is a clocker104/07/18
What are the experiences of current SSA attorney/advisors? H lawst04/08/18
I am wondering this too. The Falls Church office just releas sarah890104/08/18
Where’d you see that? govlaw04/08/18
Probably an internal posting, but if that internal posting i kramer71604/09/18
OFFICE OF HEARING OPERATIONS NATIONAL CASE ASSISTANCE CENTE hopelesslyunemployed04/10/18
I note the opening period hasn't started yet, per the postin silvere204/10/18
It's on job board from my law school, so I think it's not a sarah890104/09/18
I enjoy it. What do you want to know? izzymandelbaum04/08/18
I kind of want to know if gossip about non-attorney managers sarah890104/09/18
You need to provide a little more information on the job pos govlaw04/09/18
IT's something called "Office of Hearings Operations, Nation sarah890104/10/18
That’s a decision writer posting. This would not be with t izzymandelbaum04/10/18
izzymandelbaum Do you work as an SSA decision writer? I'm mch9804/11/18
No. I work for the Appeals Council. Decision writers do have izzymandelbaum04/11/18
Izzy pretty sure my kid works with you not that you would kn roadkingrider04/11/18
It is a fine job... not super challenging. The quota is mana downwardslope04/12/18
Why do you think NCACs are the hardest? karma04/14/18
The job is quota based. In a hearing office you can usually downwardslope04/15/18
accidental double post karma04/14/18
You guys have law degrees and want to use them. I understand walkingparadox04/11/18
I'm in the ATL region where they apparently apply veteran's cratercity04/12/18
Has anyone heard back on the SSA decision writer jobs? mch9804/14/18
Just received the referral notice for the SSA jobs that were kramer71604/19/18
I got a referral to Milwaukee. It was the only one I applied mch9804/19/18
Good luck. Let me know if you hear anything about an intervi kramer71604/19/18
Apologies. This wasn't the law school ad. This was the open kramer71604/19/18
Same. Referred for all 4. Nothing but radio silence for the silvere204/19/18

downwardslope (Apr 2, 2018 - 6:45 pm)

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/495347400

I think lots of offices have been approved to hire, but I am not sure how many will post on USAJobs as many post on law school websites or ask current employees if they know anyone. Kramer- I know you should be wrapping it up at SBA...

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kramer716 (Apr 3, 2018 - 2:14 am)

You are correct and will be applying

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silvere2 (Apr 2, 2018 - 9:51 pm)

Strange. This doesn't pop up in search. Is it hidden from the USA Jobs search engine? (I didn't know that that was an option).

*edit*

Just kidding, a million jobs just popped up at once. I guess the search engine was having issues.

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downwardslope (Apr 3, 2018 - 7:34 am)

It actually is an option, but that one was just from the search page. I think when they post to law schools they sometimes will have a secret USAJobs link (from what I’ve heard, never having seen one of those myself). Others say they just email random people from the law school postings (which I have done in the past), so it may depend on the law school and who posts it.

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t3success (Apr 3, 2018 - 11:22 pm)

Those cities are really cold.

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walterscrewedme (Apr 4, 2018 - 1:55 pm)

And GS-11 or 12 does not go very far in Mpls. Good for a new law grad, I guess.

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downwardslope (Apr 4, 2018 - 5:56 pm)

You can start working overtime pretty quickly and it is available really often if you aren’t too slow to qualify. I know we have one person in my office who typically does 8 hours of OT a week. If you assume around 50/hour for overtime, 400 hours of overtime is an extra $20K... not bad.

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walterscrewedme (Apr 5, 2018 - 8:30 am)

Can you WFH? Having to work and commute to downtown mpls and pay for cost of living in the twin cities is not so appealing as a gs-11 or 12. Being able to wfh would soften the blow.

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downwardslope (Apr 5, 2018 - 12:02 pm)

After a year it is 3 days a week.

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mch98 (Apr 6, 2018 - 1:49 pm)

Downwardslope, yes, I am applying again. It seems even more attractive now as I am on the tail end of my career.

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kramer716 (Apr 6, 2018 - 10:02 pm)

I applied as well. I didn't buy the whole only posting on law school sites theory, until I checked my law school career services site and saw a ton of openings, well it's one ad but a ton of openings within that ad. Good luck to everyone who applies.

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clocker1 (Apr 7, 2018 - 12:54 am)

SSA sounds much better than the VA. It appears the VA is a target of criticism within the fed government.

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lawst (Apr 8, 2018 - 3:03 pm)

What are the experiences of current SSA attorney/advisors? How do you like the job?

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sarah8901 (Apr 8, 2018 - 6:12 pm)

I am wondering this too. The Falls Church office just released a bulletin for attorneys, open until May.

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govlaw (Apr 8, 2018 - 6:55 pm)

Where’d you see that?

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kramer716 (Apr 9, 2018 - 6:42 am)

Probably an internal posting, but if that internal posting is leaked...wouldn't complain:)

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hopelesslyunemployed (Apr 10, 2018 - 12:45 pm)

OFFICE OF HEARING OPERATIONS
NATIONAL CASE ASSISTANCE CENTER
RECRUITING BULLETIN
Recruiting Bulletin Number: 2018-001
Job Title: Attorney Adviser

Open Period: April 16, 2018 to May 4, 2018

Position Information: Attorney, GS-905-11 (GS-11)
Promotion Potential: GS-12 (This is a career-ladder position.)
Position Information: Full Time-Excepted Service (Not to Exceed (NTE) Four-year appointment, may be extended or made permanent)
GS-11 Salary Scale: $66,510 – 86,460.00

Duty Location: Falls Church, Virginia.

NOTE: Additional decision writing opportunities may become available at National Case Assistance Centers located in Baltimore, MD, Louisville, KY, St. Louis, MO, or Richmond, CA. If you would like to be considered for future positions in any of the aforementioned locations, please identify which locations on your resume.

Who May Be Considered: United States Citizens and Nationals (Residents of American Samoa and Swains Island)

NOTE: Applications will be maintained for consideration for 6 months from the date received.

Job Summary:
As a member of our team, you would virtually advise Administrative Law Judges on all aspects of adjudication based on the Social Security Act, applicable Social Security Rulings, agency policies, and related Federal and State laws; draft, complex, legally-sufficient decisions issued by over 1,500 Administrative Law Judges; and help those in need by performing challenging, meaningful work, while having the opportunity for continued growth and advancement throughout your career.

Qualifications:
Applicants must be duly licensed, authorized and eligible to practice as an attorney under the laws of a state, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or a U.S. Territory. **Active bar membership must be maintained to remain in this position.**
Also, to qualify for the GS-11 position, applicants must meet one of the following criteria:
A. LL.B. or J.D. AND at least 1 year of professional legal experience equivalent to the GS-9 grade level or higher in the Federal service, OR
B. A second professional law degree (LL.M) which requires one full year of graduate study OR
C. A J.D. or LL.B. and superior law student work or activities as demonstrated by one of the following: (a) Academic standing in the upper-third of the law school graduating class. (b) Work or achievement of significance on your law schools' official law review. (c) Special high-level honors for academic excellence in law school, such as election to the Order of the Coif. (d) Winning of a moot court competition or membership on the moot court team that represents the law school in competition with other law schools. (e) Full-time or continuous participation in a legal aid program as opposed to one-time, intermittent, or casual participation.
Such documentation may include a current active bar card, a screen print from a bar web site that reflects you are an active member of the bar, or a letter/certificate from the bar certifying that you are licensed and authorized to practice law. *No exceptions permitted to this requirement.
Applicants MUST meet all eligibility requirements on or before the closing date of the announcement to be considered for the position.

How To Apply:
Application packages must be sent electronically to [email protected] and received in the mailbox no later than 11:59 p.m. EST, on the day that the announcement closes.
Applicants must submit the following documents:
1. Cover Letter that includes your desired duty location and availability.
2. Complete resume that includes information about your: education, work experience (paid and unpaid, including clerkships/internships) providing job title, series and grade if Federal employment accomplishments, employer’s name and address, supervisor’s name and phone number, starting and ending dates (mm/dd/yy), hours per week, and salary; and other qualifications (skills, certifications/licenses, honors, awards, special accomplishments, and job-related training courses).
*Please note that providing the mm/dd/yy for all work experience is critical for evaluating your application. If actual dates are not known, provide your best-estimated timeframes.
3. J.D. Law School Transcript; including class rank and degree confer date (Unofficial transcripts are acceptable; Self-Prepared transcripts are NOT acceptable) If selected, official transcripts are required.
4. Proof that you are a member in good standing of the Bar of a state, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or a U.S. Territory. Acceptable forms of proof are: a current active bar card, a screen print from a bar web site that reflects you are an active member of the bar, or a letter/certificate dated within 1 year from the bar certifying that you are licensed and authorized to practice law. *No exceptions permitted to this requirement.
5. If applicable, proof of veteran’s preference (DD-214 member 4 copy). This document MUST show character of service. If you are claiming 10-point preference, you MUST also submit with your DD-214 a completed SF-15 along with the required documentation specified on the reverse side of the SF-15. Preference will be granted based on the documents received.
6. One current substantive legal writing sample that reflects your own work, no more than 10 pages in length. Your sample must be sanitized or redacted to prevent possible Privacy Act violations. Writing samples will be critiqued based on your ability to analyze a legal problem and clearly and concisely articulate legal rationale.
7. If applicable, all current and former employees may submit a copy of their last SF-50 (Notification of Personnel Action) showing the highest grade held.
Other Information:
- This position is being filled by an alternative hiring process and is not in the competitive civil service. This is an excepted service position that is being filled on a full-time basis. Flextime and/or alternate work schedules may be available.

- Applicants will be required to submit to a timed writing test during the application process.

- As a condition of employment, male applicants born after December 31, 1959, must certify that they have registered with the Selective Service System, or are exempt from having to do so under the Selective Service Law.
- Relocation expenses will not be paid.
- Social Security provides reasonable accommodations to applicants with disabilities. If you need a reasonable accommodation for any part of the application and hiring process, please notify SSA at [email protected] The decision on granting reasonable accommodation will be made on a case-by-case basis.

Benefits:
Social Security offers a comprehensive benefits program that you can customize for your individual medical and financial needs. In addition to traditional “dollars and cents” benefits, we offer a range of benefits to help you balance life with Social Security to life outside of work. Please review the Social Security Administration Careers site www.ssa.gov/careers for additional information about the many benefits of a career with Social Security.
FACSIMILIE APPLICATIONS WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED.
The Federal Government is an Equal Opportunity Employer.
SSA PROVIDES EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL PERSONS WITHOUT REGARD TO RACE, COLOR, AGE, NATIONAL ORIGIN, GENDER, DISABILITY, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, MARITAL STATUS, PARENTAL STATUS, POLITICAL AFFILIATION, AND CONDUCT NOT ADVERSELY AFFECTING EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE.
WHAT TO EXPECT NEXT:
Applicants considered for selection may be required to provide official transcripts or attend an in-person or telephonic interview. Reference checks and background investigations will be conducted for tentatively selected candidates.
For additional information about this position, please forward your inquiries to [email protected]

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silvere2 (Apr 10, 2018 - 7:59 pm)

I note the opening period hasn't started yet, per the posting. Does this mean (and you may not know the answer) that we need to wait until the 16th to apply?

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sarah8901 (Apr 9, 2018 - 3:46 pm)

It's on job board from my law school, so I think it's not a public posting.

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izzymandelbaum (Apr 8, 2018 - 9:04 pm)

I enjoy it. What do you want to know?

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sarah8901 (Apr 9, 2018 - 3:57 pm)

I kind of want to know if gossip about non-attorney managers is everywhere or not... I mean if people were cool and could do it, okay. Also even if non-attorneys what's the culture like? The veterans board stories are pretty bad and I learn fast and could hopefully meet quotas. I just want to work for nice people I guess.

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govlaw (Apr 9, 2018 - 4:01 pm)

You need to provide a little more information on the job posting. There are now a couple of offices in Falls Church and they aren't all the same.

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sarah8901 (Apr 10, 2018 - 4:53 pm)

IT's something called "Office of Hearings Operations, National Case Assistance Center." I think I get what hearings means.

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izzymandelbaum (Apr 10, 2018 - 8:22 pm)

That’s a decision writer posting. This would not be with the Appeals Council. Those positions write the Administrative Law Judge decisions.

Sarah. Not sure you actually asked a question in that first portion. The atmosphere is very laid back. Nothing like the VA from what I hear. We have production requirements but it is not anywhere near as bad.

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mch98 (Apr 11, 2018 - 1:16 pm)

izzymandelbaum Do you work as an SSA decision writer? I'm interested that you describe it as laid back. Are there production quotas and what is the work environment like? Thanks.

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izzymandelbaum (Apr 11, 2018 - 2:34 pm)

No. I work for the Appeals Council. Decision writers do have a production quota (as do appeals council attorney advisers).

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roadkingrider (Apr 11, 2018 - 9:01 pm)

Izzy pretty sure my kid works with you not that you would know him. My son really seems to like the job he works out of Falls Church. The work from home is a plus. He was a litigator before and just could not stand the BS. This job your leave your work at work.

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downwardslope (Apr 12, 2018 - 1:30 pm)

It is a fine job... not super challenging. The quota is manageable but people do get fired if they do not meet it. I think the NCACs are the hardest. I am in a hearing office.

Whether an office is laid back depends on the office. Some are more production oriented than others.

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karma (Apr 14, 2018 - 4:28 pm)

Why do you think NCACs are the hardest?

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downwardslope (Apr 15, 2018 - 8:40 am)

The job is quota based. In a hearing office you can usually expect a couple of bad judges in terms of instructions, but in the NCAC you get each judge once and may have no clue what they mean or what they want. Once you figure out what a judge wants, it saves a lot of time. If I get judge blue’s crazy instructions a few times a month, I know what she wants and it doesn’t take me long to figure her out.

I know in my office the instructions are not the hottest. I got something from a new judge who transferred and it was incredible. I am used to my office now, but initially it took me an hour or two to figure out what was going on in the instructions.

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karma (Apr 14, 2018 - 8:46 pm)

accidental double post

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walkingparadox (Apr 11, 2018 - 11:13 am)

You guys have law degrees and want to use them. I understand that. Why not also apply to US Customs while you wait? My buddy has been pushing the idea on me and I'm starting to do some research on it. You would make the same money in a couple years, in fact more in the long run.

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cratercity (Apr 12, 2018 - 11:42 am)

I'm in the ATL region where they apparently apply veteran's preference religiously despite it being excepted service positions.. so it's not worth me even applying anywhere locally. My school sent out notices and said local ones are going to be listed on USAJOBS and we still have to apply there.. therefore, 0 chance as there will be a million blanket applications I'm afraid :(

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mch98 (Apr 14, 2018 - 2:18 pm)

Has anyone heard back on the SSA decision writer jobs?

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kramer716 (Apr 19, 2018 - 5:41 pm)

Just received the referral notice for the SSA jobs that were advertised on the law school career center website. I was referred to Minneapolis, Livonia, Milwaukee, and Madison. I have not been contacted for an interview, just the referral.

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mch98 (Apr 19, 2018 - 6:16 pm)

I got a referral to Milwaukee. It was the only one I applied for.

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kramer716 (Apr 19, 2018 - 6:17 pm)

Good luck. Let me know if you hear anything about an interview.

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kramer716 (Apr 19, 2018 - 7:24 pm)

Apologies. This wasn't the law school ad. This was the open to the general public ad. My mistake.

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silvere2 (Apr 19, 2018 - 10:25 pm)

Same. Referred for all 4. Nothing but radio silence for the internal posting posted above.

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