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ABA says Golden Gate Not Meeting Admission Standards

The ABA reports that Golden Gate Law School in San Francisco blawprof04/12/18
The linked article states that 30% left the first year; barp trijocker04/13/18
There are 20 ABA accredited law schools in California and 20 trickydick04/13/18
180 all the way massivemissive04/13/18
Why keep USC? 50 state universities plus the T14 is the w midlaw04/13/18
Who is going to defend traffic tickets and handle child cust themapmaster04/13/18
Honestly, it's only a matter of time before things like Wash onehell04/15/18
Admin law really isn’t low end. People just don’t know h downwardslope04/16/18
There are already people engaged in the unauthorized practic trickydick04/16/18
Golden Gate is an excellent candidate for closure. There are ichininosan04/13/18
Most Golden Gate grads I know are excellent lawyers. So it's shitlawsf04/13/18
To be fair, you only know the 48 percent that passed the bar midlaw04/13/18
Those I know graduated 15-30 years ago. Hence, my statement shitlawsf04/13/18
Golden Gate is a joke that survives because it's in a fancy wolfman04/13/18
The school has produced some noted local lawyers, despite th trijocker04/13/18
blawprof (Apr 12, 2018 - 9:00 pm)

The ABA reports that Golden Gate Law School in San Francisco does not meet accreditation standards for admission. The median LSAT score is 148 and median GPA is 3.10. Average debt at graduation is $158,857 with bar passage rates under 50 percent. Ouch!

Golden Gate University School of Law in San Francisco is “significantly out of compliance” with an accreditation standard requiring that schools admit candidates who appear capable of finishing law school and passing a bar exam.

It's time to shut down half the law school in California.
Keep Stanford, USC, the UC Schools, and Pepperdine because the campus has such a beautiful view. The rest are pretty much garbage at this point. Loyola and Santa Clara are major risks of super high debt and trap schools. University of Laverne (and Shirley) needs to go.

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trijocker (Apr 13, 2018 - 9:52 am)

The linked article states that 30% left the first year; barpass rate is 48%.
Therefore at some point the federal government needs to stop providing loans to this school.
There seems to be a point at which law schools are unable to face their bloated costs to run,
so they admit anyone to pay the bills, even if they have no ability to later pass the bar.
Then the student is yoked to a huge debt, defaults and the taxpayer foots the bill.
To help those who are unable to help themselves, the federal government needs to stop financing this type of institution, which is clearly admitting anyone just to keep the lights on.


http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/golden_gate_does_not_meet_admissions_standard_says_aba_accreditation_commit

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trickydick (Apr 13, 2018 - 2:02 pm)

There are 20 ABA accredited law schools in California and 20 non-ABA accredited law schools. All of them need to be shut down except Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, and USC.

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massivemissive (Apr 13, 2018 - 2:58 pm)

180 all the way

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midlaw (Apr 13, 2018 - 7:50 pm)

Why keep USC?

50 state universities plus the T14 is the way to go.

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themapmaster (Apr 13, 2018 - 10:52 pm)

Who is going to defend traffic tickets and handle child custody cases in that event? We need lower ranked low schools... just far less of them.

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onehell (Apr 15, 2018 - 10:07 pm)

Honestly, it's only a matter of time before things like Washington state's limited license legal technician certification become more widespread. And eventually, they will stop being limited to preparing documents for people to file pro per and will be granted appearance rights in places like traffic, small claims and family courts, much like how non-lawyers can already appear in many administrative forums.

Not only does law school not teach to such low-end areas of law, they practically ignore its existence. The limited license technicians would be taught to focus on it exclusively, and will probably handle it better than some newbie lawyer anyway.

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downwardslope (Apr 16, 2018 - 10:48 am)

Admin law really isn’t low end. People just don’t know how to do it. If you are good at it, you can do rulemaking, lobbying, etc and make a lot of money. It is just a niche area... so not many people do it.

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trickydick (Apr 16, 2018 - 3:10 pm)

There are already people engaged in the unauthorized practice of law without a license. We don't need to wait for any reforms.

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ichininosan (Apr 13, 2018 - 4:36 pm)

Golden Gate is an excellent candidate for closure. There are others for sure (Western State,TJSL, etc.). The ABA should have been on this decades ago. As for the non-ABA-accredited schools, they don’t receive taxpayer money. They should close but...there’s one born every minute and who can help that?

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shitlawsf (Apr 13, 2018 - 7:53 pm)

Most Golden Gate grads I know are excellent lawyers. So it's surprising to me that the school has fallen so far. Even with those numbers it is far from the worst in the Bay Area. I really hope they pull it together. (I didn't go to GG, btw.)

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midlaw (Apr 13, 2018 - 8:03 pm)

To be fair, you only know the 48 percent that passed the bar and the lower percentage that are actually practicing law.

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shitlawsf (Apr 13, 2018 - 8:47 pm)

Those I know graduated 15-30 years ago. Hence, my statement that I'm surprised how far they've fallen.

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wolfman (Apr 13, 2018 - 9:17 pm)

Golden Gate is a joke that survives because it's in a fancy city and thus attracts fools... I once watched two "administrators" from Golden Gate and New York Law (which is exactly the same thing, but on the East Coast) present at a conference, and my only thought was that if there was real justice in the world they would literally be tarred and feathered and ridden out of town on a rail.

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trijocker (Apr 13, 2018 - 9:22 pm)

The school has produced some noted local lawyers, despite the low bar pass rate.
It is located on really pricey real estate, so if the school does not own the land, perhaps better to relocate to cheaper headquarters.

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