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my 2 cents...Take a year after undergrad off and research

I wish I had taken the time to do more research about job pr jdcumlaude04/23/18
Some of the law schools are respectable, i.e. Tulane Law and trijocker04/24/18
Believe the 3:3 is a good idea for those that want to pursue esquirewalletsmatter05/26/18
Very good idea, even job market issues aside. I did some tut doctorseuss04/24/18
I wish more people would think harder about going to law sch thirdtierlaw04/24/18
I knew some med students who did the B.S./M.D. version of th passportfan304/24/18
Yeah I had a ton of people in my HS class obsessed with gett downwardslope04/24/18
jdcumlaude (Apr 23, 2018 - 1:17 pm)

I wish I had taken the time to do more research about job prospects after law school. Although the tangible data from the ABA in 2008-9 was not steller, I should have spoken to more attorney's who were trying to make it solo, or looked more to young attorneys for advice.

and then this comes along

https://news.campbell.edu/articles/campbell-law-meredith-announce-33-degree-partnership/

highlights--earn your undergrad and JD in 6 years. Essentially, encouraging even younger people to borrow more money with no break between undergrad and graduate school to better understand the full implications and chances of success at an unranked private law school. Lots of schools are now doing this and it is predatory.

list of 3+3 programs (wiki so take with grain of salt)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_JD_program#List_of_3+3_accelerated_JD_programs

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trijocker (Apr 24, 2018 - 3:03 pm)

Some of the law schools are respectable, i.e. Tulane Law and UC Hastings, that have 3 + 3s.
I would not totally characterize this as a money grab, but rather a way for someone who
is fully committed to attend law school and start right away at a J.D. program. If the individual is that committed to law school, there is one less year of college tuition and college living expenses to pay for. FSU law also has such a program with several colleges, see below.

FSU College of Law has 3+3 program agreements with the following schools(Admission is competitive):

Florida State University

Eckerd College

University of Central Florida

University of North Florida

University of West Florida

Saint Leo University

There are also combined BA/MD programs but I am guessing you have less of an issue with them.
https://blog.prepscholar.com/ba-md-bs-md-programs-list

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esquirewalletsmatter (May 26, 2018 - 11:42 am)

Believe the 3:3 is a good idea for those that want to pursue law from the outset. Save more over the long run and many of those individuals receive scholarships. It’s a no brainer to some. Also, the info is available today. For us, “90 percent” of grads were “employed” making “at least 70k” starting off. In reality, the entire market was collapsing. I’m still happy with my choice regardless. I would have benefitted from this at least from a financial aspect.

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doctorseuss (Apr 24, 2018 - 2:40 pm)

Very good idea, even job market issues aside. I did some tutoring after law school, and half of the students treated it like counseling because they didn't want to be there. But it is amazing how many people get into, and even out of, law school without knowing what lawyers actually do. If you're not at least somewhat geeky about the law it can be a really expensive mistake.

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thirdtierlaw (Apr 24, 2018 - 4:41 pm)

I wish more people would think harder about going to law school as well. People watch shows like suits, how to get away with murder, or whatever else the kids are watching this day and believe they understand what being an attorney really is like. I'm facinated by the law and can get into quite enjoyable conversations about the finer aspects of the law with attorney friends over drinks and for the most part I really enjoy what I do. But there are days that it is a struggle to drag myself to work. I can't imagine being one of those graduates who had no idea what legal work actually looks like when enrolling in law school but are now stuck due to their loans. Every day must be torture.

I'm not sure how to solve the problem, the schools still teach the heady legal theory classes and most practical classes are a joke/last year of law school. In a perfect world, there would be some sort of internship requirement before you can enroll in law school. (I know logistically something like that would never work).

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passportfan3 (Apr 24, 2018 - 8:07 pm)

I knew some med students who did the B.S./M.D. version of this -- both degrees in seven years.

They were super gunners whose only interest since puberty was becoming a doctor, so the program worked for them.

But, man, those kids had zero personality. It was like they missed every part of their teenage years other than studying for science class.

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downwardslope (Apr 24, 2018 - 9:52 pm)

Yeah I had a ton of people in my HS class obsessed with getting into one of those programs. There were apparently people framing others for stealing exams and expulsion hearings? It made law school seem like it would not be competitive at all. I think only 2 made it into the program and they were not the top students in the class. I don’t even think our salutatorian (who was totally crazy) ever made it to med school. Our #3 boycotted graduation because he apparently cheated his way into the slot. She decided to do biglaw instead. I think the two who made it in were kind of normal in comparison.

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