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SSA appeals council posting. 30 spots. Limited to 300 applications.

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/View Details/497687700 izzymandelbaum04/25/18
So if I understand, the day to day job goes like this: - superttthero04/25/18
No. The appeals council is like between a district court app downwardslope04/25/18
The work involves more than just summarizing an ALJ's decisi john0904/25/18
John is correct. izzymandelbaum04/25/18
Wrong. izzymandelbaum04/25/18
Thanks, izzy. They require a Q security clearance? that's cr karma04/25/18
I wonder if it's a typo. I can't imagine what part of this j silvere204/25/18
They posted for 30 in Baltimore too. Start date is quick so izzymandelbaum05/03/18
I applied for this job. Does anyone know when I would hear b kthva201705/09/18
This job sounds so boring. tedandlisa12305/09/18
I am good with boring. I have had interesting, and interesti kramer71605/09/18
Not sure. I would guess fairly quick by government standards izzymandelbaum05/09/18
More like: - Take one month training course on disabilit anonattempt05/10/18
izzymandelbaum (Apr 25, 2018 - 1:55 pm)

https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/497687700

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superttthero (Apr 25, 2018 - 2:34 pm)

So if I understand, the day to day job goes like this:

- Get a file that contains someone's SSA denial appeal case
- Write a decision for the ALJ utilizing templates provided by the office
- Get it back from the ALJ at some point and research what he asked about or fix what he didn't like
- Get chewed out by said judge
- Finish up order
- Repeat until pension withdrawals can begin

Just curious, is this right?

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downwardslope (Apr 25, 2018 - 3:02 pm)

No. The appeals council is like between a district court appeal and the hearing order. You read the order to determine whether it is legally sufficient and then write a summary of the findings. Usually they are about 1-2 pages.

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john09 (Apr 25, 2018 - 3:32 pm)

The work involves more than just summarizing an ALJ's decision. You actually have to review a decision and evaluate whether the findings are legally sufficient. If there is substantial evidence to support the ALJ's decision, you can recommend denial of the request for review. If there are problems with the decision, you can recommend/grant the request for review and remand the case to address the problems or draft a decision to replace the ALJ decision.

The position at SSA goes up to GS-12. While it is possible to advance up to GS-13, the competition for these positions is very high, and the number of GS-13 vacancies is limited by budgetary constraints (i.e., it can take several years to become a GS-13).

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izzymandelbaum (Apr 25, 2018 - 5:24 pm)

John is correct.

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izzymandelbaum (Apr 25, 2018 - 5:24 pm)

Wrong.

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karma (Apr 25, 2018 - 3:12 pm)

Thanks, izzy. They require a Q security clearance? that's crazy, it's akin to top secret. Expect to have neighbors, friends, and old supervisors get a visit and be asked about you.

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silvere2 (Apr 25, 2018 - 7:59 pm)

I wonder if it's a typo. I can't imagine what part of this job would require a Q clearance.

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izzymandelbaum (May 3, 2018 - 10:23 am)

They posted for 30 in Baltimore too. Start date is quick so guessing it will move quick.

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kthva2017 (May 9, 2018 - 9:59 am)

I applied for this job. Does anyone know when I would hear back from SSA?

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tedandlisa123 (May 9, 2018 - 10:19 am)

This job sounds so boring.

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kramer716 (May 9, 2018 - 1:49 pm)

I am good with boring. I have had interesting, and interesting is overrated. I also applied and haven't heard anything. I am guessing by end of next week is when we would hear, but honestly not sure.

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izzymandelbaum (May 9, 2018 - 9:59 pm)

Not sure. I would guess fairly quick by government standards. Interviews will likely be later this month or early June the latest.

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anonattempt (May 10, 2018 - 4:56 pm)

More like:

- Take one month training course on disability law and job duties. Get assigned a "mentor" for your first year. Sit down at your desk. And then:

- Get a file that contains someone's SSA denial appeal case
- Read ALJ's decision
- Speed-listen to hearing testimony
- Read reps/atty's briefs, if any (about 10% have briefs with them, 3-4 pages)
- Review medical and vocational evidence (average 250 pages maybe)
- in an informal memo, summarize ALJ's findings, summarize evidence, recommend and justify a disposition,
- Draft a recommended decision utilizing templates provided by the office
- If AAJ agrees with you, you won't hear about the case again. If the AAJ disagrees or wants edits to the decision, you get it back from the AAJ at some point and research what he asked about (researching an issue would be rare) or fix what he didn't like, send back to AAJ.
- Repeat (at a rate of about 2 cases per day) until pension withdrawals can begin

It's a mind-numbing job for most people, but I'm sure there are worse jobs out there. I found it interesting for about 3 months. Month 3 to 6 I started getting pretty bored. Month 6 to 9 I started getting depressed it was so boring. Month 9+ I started job searching with a vengeance. Month 15: Thanks baby jesus, I got a slightly better job with another agency (which fortunately then led to a much better job with that same agency).

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