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so I work for a firm where the partners don't go to court, d legalbeagle05/07/18
What's the point of making partner if you have to work? Seri therewillbeblood05/07/18
I like it. They figured out a nice way to make a good living dandydan05/07/18
That's typical where I work and in some firms around here wh fettywap05/07/18
Yes, it's normal. isthisit05/07/18
it's not a partner's job to go to court, it's a partner's jo dingbat05/07/18
It is the difference between small/midlaw vs. biglaw. In big thirdtierlaw05/07/18
If they actually did the work themselves, they wouldn't need jeffm05/07/18
thanks for the insight guys. I was just comparing my firm to legalbeagle05/07/18
Partners are the business generators, and -supposedly- have ternarydaemon05/08/18
As a young partner - I can tell you that the stress of findi notiers05/09/18
legalbeagle (May 7, 2018 - 9:37 am)

so I work for a firm where the partners don't go to court, don't work on legal documents (just review them once in a while) come late and leave early. I get it they're partners, but the staff isn't very much inspired to work hard if the partners don't either. is this common?

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therewillbeblood (May 7, 2018 - 10:06 am)

What's the point of making partner if you have to work? Seriously, I would totally do the same in their situation.

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dandydan (May 7, 2018 - 10:32 am)

I like it. They figured out a nice way to make a good living without working too hard. Props to them for pulling it off!

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fettywap (May 7, 2018 - 10:37 am)

That's typical where I work and in some firms around here where the owners mostly just put their name on the letterhead and let the young associates do all the work.
My office does not have the male attorneys go to court. I'm not going anymore either because I'm mad at my boss.

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isthisit (May 7, 2018 - 10:43 am)

Yes, it's normal.

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dingbat (May 7, 2018 - 10:44 am)

it's not a partner's job to go to court, it's a partner's job to bring in business.
As long as they're getting clients, there's work for the staff to do.

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thirdtierlaw (May 7, 2018 - 11:19 am)

It is the difference between small/midlaw vs. biglaw. In biglaw, the partners are still expected to be billing while bringing in business (there are of course exceptions). Midlaw and small law is a completely different game. It'll vary from firm to firm, but it's not uncommon for partners to just phone it in and cash the checks. They "paid their dues" so to speak and they are now getting by on their networking skills and their name. As dingbat said above, the associates should be happy with this arrangement. If the partner was doing the work him/herself, then the firm would need fewer associates.

I'm thrilled that one of my bosses can be lazy. It makes me valuable.

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jeffm (May 7, 2018 - 11:40 am)

If they actually did the work themselves, they wouldn't need you.

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legalbeagle (May 7, 2018 - 4:04 pm)

thanks for the insight guys. I was just comparing my firm to another one on our floor and their partners go to court and handle all the trials. but what y'all said makes sense.

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ternarydaemon (May 8, 2018 - 8:25 pm)

Partners are the business generators, and -supposedly- have the experience and judgement to hire good associates to delegate the job that is too cheap or large in volume to be done at the partner´s rates.

In big-law firms, junior partners are employees of the very senior partners, basically a higher echelon in the corporate hierarchy, with some voting power on limited issues. Given the billings and the brutal competition within the firm and with other firms, even superstar partners have to work like crazy. It could be say that only some few, gray haired partners with stellar connections can really work less in big-law.

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notiers (May 9, 2018 - 7:46 am)

As a young partner - I can tell you that the stress of finding and keeping business is, in many ways, worse than the stress associated with working up a file. That said, partners at my firm are still expected to work and it’s a bit unusual for the partners at your firm to be doing absolutely nothing.

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