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Freelance Sites - upwork, lawclerk, etc.

Does anyone have any experience with these sites? Either as dingbat06/18/18
I just automatically assume it's garbage for bottom feeders, wolfman06/18/18
Considering that JDU is full of bottom feeders, I've come to dingbat06/18/18
seriously though, I know that's how it works for web develop dingbat06/18/18
I tried them before but foreigners (not a flame) kept pricin isthisit06/19/18
I had a profile where I advertised freelance writing work bu junkwired06/19/18
Keep in mind you're getting 85% after their cut (self employ orgdonor06/19/18
Most sites charge a 20% fee. ternarydaemon06/21/18
I use Thumbtack, and the return on investment in my bids is dieter06/20/18
That's very cool. How is your ad set up? I've never used it isthisit06/20/18
It's just a professional profile. Thumbtack emails me when s dieter06/20/18
dingbat (Jun 18, 2018 - 9:20 pm)

Does anyone have any experience with these sites? Either as an employer or as a freelancer?

I'm curious if (a) it's a good way to pick up a little extra business, or (b) if it's possible to find quality attorneys for outsourcing some stuff.

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wolfman (Jun 18, 2018 - 9:34 pm)

I just automatically assume it's garbage for bottom feeders, and participating is going to be as useful for the average law-talking person as uber has been for the average cab driver. Am I wrong?

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dingbat (Jun 18, 2018 - 10:20 pm)

Considering that JDU is full of bottom feeders, I've come to the right place

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dingbat (Jun 18, 2018 - 10:21 pm)

seriously though, I know that's how it works for web development. On the other hand, graphic design has people providing high-quality products for fairly high prices.

I'm guessing it's got to do with how easy it is to evaluate the work - the average person can look at graphic design and immediately see whether or not it's good and to their liking. But when it comes to technical stuff, it's impossible for a lay person to understand how well it's done, which results in a race to the bottom in terms of pricing.

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isthisit (Jun 19, 2018 - 10:55 am)

I tried them before but foreigners (not a flame) kept pricing me out. So after a couple weeks I closed my account.

There are a lot of gigs on there but you're going to need to price your time/project very low to stay competitive.

It may not be worth your time.

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junkwired (Jun 19, 2018 - 12:17 pm)

I had a profile where I advertised freelance writing work but I wasn't able to win any of my bids for the jobs I thought were interesting and fairly priced.

I described myself as an experience writer and attorney, but noted that I would not provide ANY legal work or advice. Naturally, the only offers for work I received were from distressed individuals looking for cheap legal advice and/or assistance with drafting legal documents. No thanks. I shut it down after a few months.

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orgdonor (Jun 19, 2018 - 9:41 pm)

Keep in mind you're getting 85% after their cut (self employment tax). So if it's $50/hour, and you pay them 10%, you'll get .85*45: $38.25. Imagine getting less.

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ternarydaemon (Jun 21, 2018 - 1:44 pm)

Most sites charge a 20% fee.

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dieter (Jun 20, 2018 - 12:19 am)

I use Thumbtack, and the return on investment in my bids is about 100x. They email me about 10-12 potential immigration clients every day. They are mostly 130/485 adjustment of status, and recently some EB-2 self petitions.

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isthisit (Jun 20, 2018 - 8:57 am)

That's very cool. How is your ad set up? I've never used it myself.

I'd love to bang out easy AOS applications on the side for extra money.

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dieter (Jun 20, 2018 - 10:23 am)

It's just a professional profile. Thumbtack emails me when someone posts that they need an immigration lawyer. I pay $3-5 to respond, and they contact me directly if interested.

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