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What ever happened to your white law school classmates?

I saw the “what happened to your black law school classmat jdbuddy08/01/18
Does "white" include "white-hispanic" ? bcls08/01/18
They all promptly received a trophy spouse, discharge of stu ibrslave08/01/18
Thank you, you beat me to it. dupednontraditional08/01/18
I think they are all still white, myself included. jd4hire08/01/18
I may be a "bad classmate", but I don't know, or really care wutwutwut08/01/18
Most have really boring-sounding jobs in smallish or mid-siz wolfenstein08/01/18
After doing a little internet stalking, I see that the peopl section8rick08/01/18
This is why law schools track and publicize career outcomes disappearedattorney08/01/18
Are Jews white? gsamson7608/01/18
A couple of them became partners at big firms in Chicago and cranky08/01/18
Also other results of people I knew: state superior court ju cranky08/01/18
Seems like it's always going to be a range, except perhaps f quillan08/01/18
Seems like it's always going to be a range, except perhaps f quillan08/01/18
Definitely. The disclaimer on my post is that I went to a so cranky08/01/18
One guy I always wanted to punch in the face became a well r corneroffice08/01/18
jdbuddy (Aug 1, 2018 - 10:57 am)

I saw the “what happened to your black law school classmates” post and figuered I would have to ask whatever happen to the white people in law school.

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bcls (Aug 1, 2018 - 1:12 pm)

Does "white" include "white-hispanic" ?

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ibrslave (Aug 1, 2018 - 11:09 am)

They all promptly received a trophy spouse, discharge of student loans, a brass ring position at a prestigious firm while telecommuting from home, and a water-front 6,000 square foot compound. Every single white person from my class...

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dupednontraditional (Aug 1, 2018 - 3:09 pm)

Thank you, you beat me to it.

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jd4hire (Aug 1, 2018 - 11:46 am)

I think they are all still white, myself included.

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wutwutwut (Aug 1, 2018 - 3:31 pm)

I may be a "bad classmate", but I don't know, or really care, what happened to more than 2 of them, black or white.

One got a cush in-house job early in his career but eventually they RIFd half the legal dept and he lost his job, never got another as a lawyer, and went inactive. He doesn't return emails anymore.

The other bounced around to a few firms and ended up scratching as a solo. I've seen him a couple of times over the years and he's desperate for work. Last time I bought him lunch I noticed his hands had developed a noticeable tremor, enough to interfere with eating with chopsticks.

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wolfenstein (Aug 1, 2018 - 5:46 pm)

Most have really boring-sounding jobs in smallish or mid-size (in some cases respectable-sounding) firms, mostly in cities or towns where they came from, often where their often wealthy parents have some local influence (a HUGE number of my classmates are sons/daughters of medical doctors and dentsits).

Some have made partners, invariably in places no one has ever heard of in the middle of nowhere; some have jobs with small or mid-size banks, or second-rate government agencies.

A few made BigLaw and are either still there or in-house in big companies like AmEx or Dennys or Wallmart.

A not insignificant number have either completely disappeared on social media or have jobs that have nothing to do with law; one guy works as a cameraman at a TV station; one teaches English abroad; one is a web developer (supposedly free-lance; he's never worked anywhere of note); one died of a drug overdose; a rich doctor's daughter is getting an MBA at a top school; a few people have no visible means of support or jobs they care to publicize, and post things on social media that just seem angry and crazy.

The only people I feel sort of envious of are the three guys who got JAG positions straight out of or right after law school; they seem to have good careers and interesting lives; all are still in the military; one was prior service Army, and got Army JAG; one had attended a military academy and also got Army JAG; one got Marine JAG. They seem like they have good jobs; virtually no one else does, although I suppose quite a few make good money... Interestingly enough, two guys who were prior service (enlisted Afganistan/Iraq vets) and did not want (or did not get) to do JAG, but had gone to LS on the GI Bill, have both opened fairly succesful solo practices in small towns and seem happy with their lives; one got married and has a kid, one doesn't.

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section8rick (Aug 1, 2018 - 8:30 pm)

After doing a little internet stalking, I see that the people who had grades at the top of the class landed biglaw/decent firm gigs. A few pretty girls are associates at midlaw firms. One girl works at her uncle's firm. The IP guys all have associate jobs. The rest I can't find, and their last job on Linkedin is either a job that they had while in law school or a clerkship that they started two years ago.

For the black students, there weren't many, but one girl got a biglaw job that lasted for nine months, and she now works at a fairly large firm. One guy, who often answered questions in class with "I can't put it into words," landed a midlaw job, but he now seems to have actually moved up, to the most prestigious firm in town. Does that happen very often?

And me? Doc review city, hoping to get out of the legal profession as soon as possible. So in other words: things turned out exactly how you guys on the internet said that they would.

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disappearedattorney (Aug 1, 2018 - 8:43 pm)

This is why law schools track and publicize career outcomes at 9 months after graduation only. It only gets worse after that, and 10 or 15 years out, the data (if it were compiled) would be awful at all but the T3.

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gsamson76 (Aug 1, 2018 - 9:08 pm)

Are Jews white?

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cranky (Aug 1, 2018 - 9:14 pm)

A couple of them became partners at big firms in Chicago and DC. Another is of counsel at a big firm in NYC. General counsel at some utility co. Another guy washed out of biglaw and has his own practice. Another (Jewish) guy is partner at a big firm in LA. Another guy washed out of big law and works for a small firm. Still another washed out quickly out of big law, worked for the gov't and is now solo. A woman worked for gov't then became staff attorney at a big firm. I don't keep in touch with most law school classmates, never felt like there was much community at my school.

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cranky (Aug 1, 2018 - 10:47 pm)

Also other results of people I knew: state superior court judge, a law professor, went into investment banking in NYC, in house counsel. One person I can't find online. I still feel like the loser of my class.

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quillan (Aug 1, 2018 - 10:28 pm)

Seems like it's always going to be a range, except perhaps for the YHS cohort. Many of my classmates, 20 years out from a top 25 school in the middle of the country, are highly successful. A number of big law partners, one started his own successful mid-size firm, several have moved into business roles, and several have high-up in-house gigs. Quite a few have average jobs in-house and in state and federal government, as well as non-profits. And a sizable minority have flamed out for various reasons, mostly substance use and overwork. Of course, 20 years ago graduates of lower tier 1 schools could still expect to get good jobs out of school, and with relatively low debt to boot.

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quillan (Aug 1, 2018 - 10:28 pm)

Seems like it's always going to be a range, except perhaps for the YHS cohort. Many of my classmates, 20 years out from a top 25 school in the middle of the country, are highly successful. A number of big law partners, one started his own successful mid-size firm, several have moved into business roles, and several have high-up in-house gigs. Quite a few have average jobs in-house and in state and federal government, as well as non-profits. And a sizable minority have flamed out for various reasons, mostly substance use and overwork. Of course, 20 years ago graduates of lower tier 1 schools could still expect to get good jobs out of school, and with relatively low debt to boot.

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cranky (Aug 1, 2018 - 10:49 pm)

Definitely. The disclaimer on my post is that I went to a so-called top tier law school almost 20 years ago when the job market was not as saturated.

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corneroffice (Aug 1, 2018 - 11:02 pm)

One guy I always wanted to punch in the face became a well regarded law professor.

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