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FML - need NJ C&F 303 Hearing

Anyone go through one of these? Can you tell me what went d PAAAL11/29/11
I got held up for 6 months because I got sober in law school psusurf11/29/11
He said it was just minor alcohol related stuff. Nothing wa PAAAL11/29/11
You are getting held up for having an underage drinking tick UNEMPLOYEDTROLL11/29/11
That sounds simple. You will definetely get referred to NJL psusurf11/29/11
Thanks psusurf. When you say you got held up for 6 months, PAAAL11/29/11
I only applied in New Jersey, I knew I was going to practice psusurf11/30/11
Can you talk a bit more about the people who are having prob PAAAL12/01/11
Bump PAAAL12/02/11
No, they are only going to address you on the things you dis psusurf12/02/11
What percentage of people referred to NJLAP get a 303 hearin dharamsala11/03/17
PAAAL (Nov 29, 2011 - 9:40 am)

Anyone go through one of these? Can you tell me what went down? Any recommendations?

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psusurf (Nov 29, 2011 - 12:28 pm)

I got held up for 6 months because I got sober in law school and disclosed it. I had to jump through a ton of hoops, but I never did a 303. I know some other people who did, one of them got through right after the hearing, and the other one is still waiting, almost one year later. If you disclosed everything, and I mean everything, you should be fine. The one kid I know who is being held up is because he didn't disclose everything, which is probably worse than killing somebody to them. If it is for drug and alcohol issues, so long as you sought treatment, and have shown positive steps since then, i.e. meetings, therapy, etc., you will be fine.

If it is for some other reason, then you are kind of at the mercy of the committee. What did your C and F rep tell you was the problem that he referred you for?

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PAAAL (Nov 29, 2011 - 2:40 pm)

He said it was just minor alcohol related stuff. Nothing was major (ie worse than underages, OCs) but that the committee would prob want to just talk to me in person. He mentioned possibility of an nj lap referral. Have you done that?

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UNEMPLOYEDTROLL (Nov 29, 2011 - 3:38 pm)

You are getting held up for having an underage drinking ticket? Jesus Christ....fuck these people.

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psusurf (Nov 29, 2011 - 3:39 pm)

That sounds simple. You will definetely get referred to NJLAP. I would call them ASAP to get your appointment scheduled because it is not a fast process, but they wont schedule you until your character guy refers your file to them. Normally they refer you to NJLAP, who then makes a recommendation to your C and F person. If the recommendation is negative, then you normally get sent to a 303 hearing. It is weird that your guy sent you to a 303 without first sending you to NJLAP.

I went to rehab in law school for booze during 3rd year (Been sober 4 years now). I also had a public drunkeness, trespassing, and peeing in public, all while in college. I gave them all my medical records, and all my police records, and I went through my interview with NJLAP. NJLAP made a positive recommendation, I got the OK from my C and F guy, and my Judge swore me in two weeks later.

Believe me, if I got in, you should get in, so long as you have nothing else you didn't disclose. Sounds like you got a prick for a C and F guy. I clerked with a girl who got a DUI for driving across a baseball field evading the police, and her C and F guy just let her through without going to anything. Its really luck of the draw.

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PAAAL (Nov 29, 2011 - 9:35 pm)

Thanks psusurf. When you say you got held up for 6 months, you mean 6 months after everyone else was sworn in, correct? Also, did you only apply NJ? I applied NJ and another state simultaneously and passed in the other state without any scrutiny whatsoever (am admitted).

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psusurf (Nov 30, 2011 - 10:09 am)

I only applied in New Jersey, I knew I was going to practice here. I found out I passed in November, and then after everything, I was admitted in the beginning of May the following year. I was fortunate that since I was a law clerk, I had ten months to obtain my license before starting my real lawyer job.

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PAAAL (Dec 1, 2011 - 11:12 pm)

Can you talk a bit more about the people who are having problems? I disclosed everything I had, all minor traffic accidents, arrests, citations, etc. I'm worried that they're going to confront me with a time I peed on my college roommate's bed or some other forgotten drunken thing like that. You just have no idea what that damn catch-all question covers. And if I go through this process I want to make sure it goes as easily as possible.

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PAAAL (Dec 2, 2011 - 1:51 pm)

Bump

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psusurf (Dec 2, 2011 - 6:46 pm)

No, they are only going to address you on the things you disclosed. They want to make sure that you are not a drunk, and they want to make sure you appreciate the gravity of your offenses (even though they are bs). To make your life go easier, I would make sure you talk to the people at NJLAP, because even though they are sort of the gatekeepers, they will help you get through by telling you exactly what you need to do.

People I know who had trouble are people with multiple DUI's, mutliple criminal offenses, people who failed to disclose things (i.e. criminal and or civil offenses), and people who fight the process and refuse to do the things that NJLAP tells them to do. Just be a sheep, listen to what NJLAP tells you to do, and do it. You should be fine as long as there is nothing else lurking in the closet you failed to disclose.

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dharamsala (Nov 3, 2017 - 7:35 pm)

What percentage of people referred to NJLAP get a 303 hearing?

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