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Best college major for law school?

What do admissions offices look for? I really want to go t highschoolprtygrl1808/02/18
Agree that an engineering, comp sci, accounting, or finance nycatt08/06/18
I have a pre-law degree. Not sure if it helps any with admis fettywap08/02/18
It’s called “crush the LSAT.” Any major where you cou ambulancechaser201308/02/18
For the love of God, major in anything but pre-law. Pre-law meezerman08/02/18
Major in nursing. Get licensed. Then if law school doesn't w therewillbeblood08/02/18
Major in whatever you want. They don't care. There is a fo jeffm08/02/18
ok i didn't realize it was so cut and dry. I recently got highschoolprtygrl1808/02/18
There is no benefit to be derived from pre-law aside from ta pauperesq08/02/18
There is no advantage to pre-law. Law is just the art o jeffm08/02/18
Extracurriculars may tip the balance in your favor, but if y hairypalms08/04/18
This is true only if you didn't make the first cut. Those w jeffm08/04/18
Echo previous posts re LSAT. Otherwise, Definitely not sobeitunion08/02/18
An exception is, of course, if you are interested in patent nigeltufnel08/02/18
Business/Finance in case the law doesn’t work out. yankeebirdie08/02/18
Major in something that will make you economically viable up anothernjlawyer08/02/18
my big does theater/drama and I know she makes money with fi highschoolprtygrl1808/02/18
Completely disagree. It depends on the person. If you are quillan08/03/18
Nursing is a great one. There's a number of attorney positio attorneydavid08/03/18
Trolling with a minor in Internet Me-Mes. isthisit08/02/18
Plumbing and HVAC. madathofstra08/02/18
Medical Doctor is pretty good. wutwutwut08/02/18
Conniseur level trolling on this forum nowadays. If th wearyattorney08/02/18
What's this character and fitness test I keep seeing on this highschoolprtygrl1808/02/18
As long as you get the M.D. then go to law school, these pho wutwutwut08/02/18
Something STEM so you actually have a job when you fail to f sillydood08/03/18
If you are planning on attending law school, you need a back hairypalms08/04/18
I think most of them go this route because they don't do wel jeffm08/04/18
OP, I just want to commend you on your username. It conveys trickydick08/05/18
A well-balanced and thoughtful reply, giving due considerati wutwutwut08/05/18
Thanks, but the 2018 is actually because I graduated in 2018 highschoolprtygrl1808/06/18
This is an obvious troll guys. The number of earnest poasts professionalloser08/06/18
Doesn't really matter; people earnestly looking for an answe therewillbeblood08/06/18
TITCR wearyattorney08/06/18
I didn't spot that issue. You have a point. professionalloser08/06/18
honest answer - major in a hard science so you're eligible f dingbat08/06/18
Specifically, electrical engineering or chemical engineering patenttrollnj08/06/18
Honestly, it does not matter (unless you want to practice pa patenttrollnj08/06/18
The best college for law school is the one that convinced yo wearyattorney08/06/18
I'm not sure if they're the best majors but I think foreign whiskeymystic08/07/18
Well done hspg18. Maybe you'll be a huuuuuugggge success jmoney08/08/18
anything math and science intensive. even finance w a math c whiteguyinchina08/13/18

highschoolprtygrl18 (Aug 2, 2018 - 10:59 am)

What do admissions offices look for? I really want to go to law school and want to get a head start. Right now I am entering as a communications major but I am thinking of pre-law instead. Does pre-law really give a bump? I know it's not like pre-med but I think it must help somewhat.

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nycatt (Aug 6, 2018 - 3:54 pm)

Agree that an engineering, comp sci, accounting, or finance degree is the best degree for being a lawyer. First, it is gamble to get a job as a lawyer if you don't get into a top 10 school (a large chunk of the class will never practice at lower ranked schools because they give out twice as many degrees as there are existing jobs and the job is very hard), so having a fall back career is nice. BUT, if it is also way easier to get a lawyer job with one of those types of degrees. Engineers with mediocre grades I know all got IP jobs.

Second, spend 4 years mastering the LSAT so you can go to a top 6 school or a bottom one for free. The test is the most important factor. The debt from law-school is crushing - by practicing over and over you CAN get a top score, and that is all you need to go to school for free.

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fettywap (Aug 2, 2018 - 11:01 am)

I have a pre-law degree. Not sure if it helps any with admissions, but I took a lot of legal classes for my major, which better prepared me for law school.

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ambulancechaser2013 (Aug 2, 2018 - 11:06 am)

It’s called “crush the LSAT.” Any major where you could get a 4.0 as easy as possible to spend the rest of your time studying for the LSAT.

Seriously, a fool thinks the Bar Exam is the most important test to be a lawyer. It’s the LSAT instead. Crush it and you might go to Harvard and basically be set for life.

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meezerman (Aug 2, 2018 - 11:06 am)

For the love of God, major in anything but pre-law. Pre-law is useless. Major in something you like, something you're good at, something practical that you can fall back on if you decide not to go to law school or not to finish. Anything but pre-law.

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therewillbeblood (Aug 2, 2018 - 11:10 am)

Major in nursing. Get licensed. Then if law school doesn't work out, which it likely won't, you have a good backup career.

You can prepare for law school as a BSN student by taking writing-intensive public health courses.

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jeffm (Aug 2, 2018 - 11:30 am)

Major in whatever you want. They don't care. There is a formula, like this: x * GPA + y * LSAT = ?. If your score exceeds a threshold, you're in.

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highschoolprtygrl18 (Aug 2, 2018 - 12:45 pm)

ok i didn't realize it was so cut and dry. I recently got into college and I know extra curriculars were huggeeeeeeeeeeeee. I was in cheerleading/honor club and organized a lot of charities at our school. Is there any real point to pre-law? like will it help me when i go to law school?

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pauperesq (Aug 2, 2018 - 1:21 pm)

There is no benefit to be derived from pre-law aside from taking a bunch of classes centered around writing and critical thinking. You can take all of the same classes as electives while you pursue a major that will actually be useful if you ultimately decide you don't want to go to law school.

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jeffm (Aug 2, 2018 - 2:43 pm)

There is no advantage to pre-law.

Law is just the art of making and predicting issues. It's a lot like a game of chess. Do you know how to play chess? Are you good at it? Do you enjoy it? Unlike chess, there is a lot of grunt work that goes with it, and the game tends to last a lot longer.

Also, you are not in control of your game. You take the hand you are dealt - i.e., your skills must be applied to your client's situation. If your client deals you a bad hand, you have a bad hand. What can you do with it? Don't expect to be Perry Mason, even though a good lawyer will have his or her Perry Mason-like moments. Sometimes, you just wind up chastising the client for the situation you are given and lick your wounds.

In addition, a chess game is usually amicable between the players, whereas the lawyer's job regularly becomes a lot more confrontational - whether its litigation or transactional. Are you reluctant to cause arguments and create controversy with people? Unlike chess, law has pecuniary consequences which are serious to the players. While you want to get your way amicably, it ultimately comes down to, "Kill or be killed."

Then, there is the "business" of law. Some lawyers aren't chess players as much as they are deal-makers. They make rain and find chess-players to help them for a cut of the action.

Honestly, I doubt any major will "prepare" you for law. It's either in your personality, or it's not. Some people don't know their personalities well enough to predict whether law will be good for them. With some exceptions (not many), you better like paperwork. The law is why man invented paper. ;-)

My undergrad was in accounting. I think it has been useful in my law practice because I deal with businesses. There is a lot of interplay between law, accounting and finance in the business world. It helps to understand how money flows and the concepts used to structure the flow.

That said, my degree didn't *prepare* me for law school. It was only useful after I got out and had real clients with real issues. Law professors don't care to teach you how to rummage through papers, financial statements, etc. It's *that* boring. Instead, the professors are more interested in teaching you how *not* to see the world through singular lenses. You are taught not to assume, but to create, issues.

Basically, you are taught to argue and quibble. Do you like quibbling? Could you do it day-after-day, week-after-week, and year-after-year? In either case, I don't think any college degree directly prepares you to quibble. I think it's a personality trait.

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hairypalms (Aug 4, 2018 - 7:50 am)

Extracurriculars may tip the balance in your favor, but if you don't have the numbers, EC's won't help much in the admission process.

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jeffm (Aug 4, 2018 - 9:32 am)

This is true only if you didn't make the first cut. Those who make the first cut did so only with GPA and LSAT scores. They are auto-accepted without anyone having read their applications.

After the auto-accepts, admissions people start looking for other qualities in the applicants, such as sons of senators, etc.

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sobeitunion (Aug 2, 2018 - 12:08 pm)

Echo previous posts re LSAT.

Otherwise, Definitely not pre-law. Such a huge number of people never practice or quit the profession, having a somewhat useful degree would be nice. I think a finance background would be really useful both for law practice or for a lot of jd-preferred jobs. It really depends on what you want to do.

Also: don’t go to law school. Seriously, rethink your future. It is not what it’s cracked up to be.

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nigeltufnel (Aug 2, 2018 - 12:11 pm)

An exception is, of course, if you are interested in patent law. In which case, choose a STEM major.

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yankeebirdie (Aug 2, 2018 - 12:22 pm)

Business/Finance in case the law doesn’t work out.

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anothernjlawyer (Aug 2, 2018 - 12:44 pm)

Major in something that will make you economically viable upon graduation, even if you do not go to law school.

DO NOT major in pre-law. It is worthless.

Having a degree that actually provides you with a specific, portable skill is a wonderful thing to have. I wish I had one.

Nursing is a great example.
A teaching degree, depending on how well teaching pays in your area
Finance
Accounting
Engineering (mechanical, chemical, computer, etc.)
A hard science

Things to avoid:
English
History
Art
Theater / drama
Any wishy-washy liberal arts major......you don't need one to work at Starbucks and that's what you'll be doing if you choose them.

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highschoolprtygrl18 (Aug 2, 2018 - 12:46 pm)

my big does theater/drama and I know she makes money with films on the side

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quillan (Aug 3, 2018 - 5:02 pm)

Completely disagree. It depends on the person. If you are going to a good college and had strong ACT/SAT scores (which do reasonably predict LSAT scores), get a degree that will make you a well-rounded, interesting person capable of critical thought and clear writing. English, Philosophy, History, Art, Theater, and Music are all good choices. Business degrees are terrible choices. Econ is okay at top colleges. Hard sciences and engineering are excellent routes to pursue, but only if you want to do IP - otherwise law is a waste when you could do medical school or business instead. I do agree that for someone without top scores, accounting and or nursing are solid options that really can lead to a strong legal career and provide alternatives.

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attorneydavid (Aug 3, 2018 - 10:24 pm)

Nursing is a great one. There's a number of attorney positions where being able to review medical records will be helpful and it's a great backup with training upgrades. FNP etc

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isthisit (Aug 2, 2018 - 1:04 pm)

Trolling with a minor in Internet Me-Mes.

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madathofstra (Aug 2, 2018 - 1:07 pm)

Plumbing and HVAC.

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wutwutwut (Aug 2, 2018 - 2:17 pm)

Medical Doctor is pretty good.

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wearyattorney (Aug 2, 2018 - 2:33 pm)

Conniseur level trolling on this forum nowadays.

If this a serious post, do not go to law school. If you can get into a top law school, that means you can get into a regular medical school or a top business school, both are better options. If you cannot get into a top law school, any other option is better: become a teacher, a cop, a hair dresser, tradesperson, whatever.

If you must go to law school because you Boomer parents are telling you it’s a good idea, based on the economy of the 60s, 70s, and 80s, then marry a rich person. Since you were a cheerleader, it should be very doable.

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highschoolprtygrl18 (Aug 2, 2018 - 2:40 pm)

What's this character and fitness test I keep seeing on this forum and other law school forums? I have some pictures on the internet I need taken down. I'm not sure if this changes anything

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wutwutwut (Aug 2, 2018 - 3:06 pm)

As long as you get the M.D. then go to law school, these photos will not affect your Character & Fitness review.

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sillydood (Aug 3, 2018 - 6:05 pm)

Something STEM so you actually have a job when you fail to find one as an attorney.

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hairypalms (Aug 4, 2018 - 7:47 am)

If you are planning on attending law school, you need a backup plan in case your law career gets derailed. Many take political science, English or history as majors, presumably because they are easy subjects and easy to get a high GPA. My own view is that these majors are not geared toward being able to land a job - maybe that's an understatement. I would major in something that allows you to get a decent job out of school. Engineering, medical research, sciences, nursing, pharmacy, finance, etc. If you want to go to law school, many of these majors will allow you to be patent bar eligible. Why waste your college degree and your money on a major that will not benefit you in the job market. Do something to differentiate yourself from the pack of college graduates. English, history and political science majors are a dime a dozen.

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jeffm (Aug 4, 2018 - 9:34 am)

I think most of them go this route because they don't do well in math and science and will get slaughtered in undergrad, leaving it pretty much guaranteed they can't get into a good law school.

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trickydick (Aug 5, 2018 - 4:25 am)

OP, I just want to commend you on your username. It conveys an earnest interest in the legal profession while simultaneously conveying the fact that you’re a female high school student who enjoys partying and that it is the year 2018. It strikes a fine balance between known and unknown quantifiers. Long time lurker, first time poster?

To answer the substance of your question, if you’re serious about law school, you’d have to be a fool to major in anything other than pre-law. But if you’re disinclined to pursue pre-law, a major in cosmetology would probably not only be interesting but also give you an alternative career path to fall back on in the unlikely event that a career in law isn’t everything you’re hoping it will be.

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wutwutwut (Aug 5, 2018 - 7:49 am)

A well-balanced and thoughtful reply, giving due consideration to all relevant factors.

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highschoolprtygrl18 (Aug 6, 2018 - 9:58 am)

Thanks, but the 2018 is actually because I graduated in 2018.

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professionalloser (Aug 6, 2018 - 8:49 am)

This is an obvious troll guys. The number of earnest poasts responding to it is laughable.

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therewillbeblood (Aug 6, 2018 - 12:09 pm)

Doesn't really matter; people earnestly looking for an answer to this question will come here and read the responses.

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wearyattorney (Aug 6, 2018 - 12:38 pm)

TITCR

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professionalloser (Aug 6, 2018 - 2:22 pm)

I didn't spot that issue. You have a point.

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dingbat (Aug 6, 2018 - 10:13 am)

honest answer - major in a hard science so you're eligible for the patent bar

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patenttrollnj (Aug 6, 2018 - 5:11 pm)

Specifically, electrical engineering or chemical engineering ONLY !!

Don't make the mistake of thinking a mere biology or chemistry major, even with substantial lab experience and/or a masters (or PhD), will get you hired. Also, the same general rule applies for patent law as with all other legal specialties: top tier school, law review, big law first job, etc ...

Otherwise, if you don't check all these boxes, your career will follow the same trajectory as my career did. By that, you can expect to work at small firms where most of your clients are unfunded inventors, and you get to deal with patent and copyright trolls all day long. Fun!

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patenttrollnj (Aug 6, 2018 - 5:18 pm)

Honestly, it does not matter (unless you want to practice patent law).

Pick the major that will give you the highest GPA that will also allow you plenty of time to study for the LSAT. All law schools care about is undergraduate GPA and LSAT scores. This is what is calculated into their US News ranking, so that's all they look for.

In short: be sure the numbers are high and don't worry so much about the major itself.

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wearyattorney (Aug 6, 2018 - 5:36 pm)

The best college for law school is the one that convinced you not to go to law school.

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whiskeymystic (Aug 7, 2018 - 2:37 pm)

I'm not sure if they're the best majors but I think foreign languages as majors are pretty practical. If you don't get set up in Biglaw (fat chance for most people) then you can at least do foreign language doc reviews for $45 (Spanish) and up. Learn one as a major, learn a second in your mid-20s and you can likely be diversified enough that you don't need to do reg DR, or hardly ever(location matters, you probably have to be commutable to a major urban center). If you decide you hate law (i.e., if you come to your senses at some point) then you can fall back on going into teaching perhaps. If you want to stay a lawyer then knowing a foreign language is an easy entree into an immigration practice if you don't like litigation and the stress that comes with it. They aren't that demanding that you can't get a decent GPA in them either.

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jmoney (Aug 8, 2018 - 2:23 am)

Well done hspg18.

Maybe you'll be a huuuuuugggge success as a lawyer.

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whiteguyinchina (Aug 13, 2018 - 4:33 am)

anything math and science intensive. even finance w a math component. like calc 3 and beyond.

so the admin committee knows you are intelligent and are not applying to law school just because you have no other options

plus you will ace the logic sectiob on the LSAT

and if that fails, you can get a well paying job in another field and are not stuck

dont suggest to major in a foreign language, you can learn enough in a year abroad and not waste your college time and money. no one cares where you learned spanish if u actually speak it.

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