Celebrating 10 years! 2007-2017

need to ask firm to take me off website for a while

And I've only been there a few months. It's a precaution du fuckup08/18/18
My wife manages several offices of her work. Through her re nycatt08/20/18
Yeah. Basically I got no good options here. fuckup08/20/18
Think long and hard on how to navigate. Without any details jd4hire08/18/18
Please define "online defamation" dingbat08/18/18
Are you the guy who wanted to take a website out to counter- isthisit08/18/18
Hahahaha. jd4hire08/18/18
No, that is not this case. Basically someone relatively wel fuckup08/18/18
Ah OK. Just ignore it. Don't forget the Streisand effect isthisit08/18/18
the attack included photos (which I think are copyright viol fuckup08/18/18
You can't bud. Once it's on the internet you're not getting isthisit08/18/18
I'd be threatening to sue if posts aren't removed. fuckup08/18/18
Go for it OP. isthisit08/18/18
Second jd4hire in thinking long and hard before asking firm justdoingok08/18/18
OP, I just want to commend you on your username. It conveys trickydick08/19/18
I know this is a joke, but I don't think it's too crazy that fuckup08/20/18
Have you considered using Reputation Defender? I don't know caj11108/19/18
Yeah I'm looking into those services too. But my goal is to fuckup08/19/18
Need more details here. Difficult to opine otherwise. esquirewalletsmatter08/19/18
reputation defender generally is about pushing negative post fuckup08/20/18
If you have a middle name, how about asking them to put just pisces21308/20/18
I think you should look into going to Europe and then reques billionsmcmillions08/20/18
Interesting. Once you are "forgotten" are you safe in the U fuckup08/20/18
Nope. They only de-index in europe, not the US. jstalin08/27/18
Every lawyer has dealt with a crazy or two over the years. I onehell08/21/18
One hell is right. My current boss got a on few slanderous nycatt08/21/18
Thanks. If I pursue the legal action I do think I'll need t fuckup08/22/18
This is gonna be tough. I might lose my job but to save my fuckup08/26/18
Is this defamation ongoing? I have experience with this issu jstalin08/27/18
Its not leaving the internet so it might as well be ongoing fuckup08/27/18
I mean is the person who did the defaming continuing to post jstalin08/27/18
Why don't you just sue them? Whether the suit has merit, I' doublefriedchicken08/28/18
Its a possibility but worried about the situation going more fuckup08/29/18

fuckup (Aug 18, 2018 - 12:49 pm)

And I've only been there a few months. It's a precaution due to online defamation that affected a previous job. how to go about this?

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nycatt (Aug 20, 2018 - 9:13 pm)

My wife manages several offices of her work. Through her reports, she manages a few hundred of people. She had an issue where a crazy woman left a message in one of the offices she manages saying that my wife's employee kept her as a submissive sex slave and bunch of other weird stuff. Fortunately for the employee, before this went down, this employee had confided to the local manager that there was a stalker out there, she had a restraining order against her, and she was mortified about things this woman was doing, and that anything this person said was not true. The employee kept her job because she was a good employee and her story checked out and she got in front of it. Although, I must say that while my wife is brilliant manager who values talent and knows when a person is a victim of circumstance, many law firm managers are a-holes in my experience, so it may go sideways fast.

I think you dont just say to take you off the website - that sounds crazy. You need to get in front of the story and explain it to HR if you are more than 50% confident that this gets out. If you said something stupid to get this celebrity pissed that demonstrates bad judgment, you may want to keep it secret and cross your fingers, because the the thing you originally said may get your fired.

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fuckup (Aug 20, 2018 - 11:27 pm)

Yeah. Basically I got no good options here.

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jd4hire (Aug 18, 2018 - 1:51 pm)

Think long and hard on how to navigate. Without any details, it's hard to go on, but how you act, what you disclose, what you don't disclose, etc. could affect your current employment, IMO.

Provide more details.

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dingbat (Aug 18, 2018 - 2:36 pm)

Please define "online defamation"

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isthisit (Aug 18, 2018 - 3:03 pm)

Are you the guy who wanted to take a website out to counter-defame a former client or something?

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jd4hire (Aug 18, 2018 - 3:37 pm)

Hahahaha.

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fuckup (Aug 18, 2018 - 3:52 pm)

No, that is not this case. Basically someone relatively well known attacked me on social media and outed where I work.

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isthisit (Aug 18, 2018 - 4:42 pm)

Ah OK.

Just ignore it. Don't forget the Streisand effect. If anyone brings it up use the Shaggy Defense (wasn't me).

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fuckup (Aug 18, 2018 - 4:52 pm)

the attack included photos (which I think are copyright violations)

the posts show up in google searches. I need to get rid of them

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isthisit (Aug 18, 2018 - 6:15 pm)

You can't bud. Once it's on the internet you're not getting rid of it.

You can hire a PR agency which can game the search results to favor you but that's just temporary.

You may be able to sue but that's not going to help you get rid of it.

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fuckup (Aug 18, 2018 - 6:27 pm)

I'd be threatening to sue if posts aren't removed.

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isthisit (Aug 18, 2018 - 6:50 pm)

Go for it OP.

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justdoingok (Aug 18, 2018 - 11:52 pm)

Second jd4hire in thinking long and hard before asking firm to do this. The listing of attorney on firm websites serves as marketing to show clients the firm’s capabilities and experience. I’m not sure a firm is inclined to remove an associated attorney from its marketing materials, even if temporarily.

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trickydick (Aug 19, 2018 - 12:03 am)

OP, I just want to commend you on your username. It conveys a position of no small prestige in the legal profession while simultaneously conveying the fact that you’re an individual susceptible to subtle errors in judgment. It strikes a fine balance between known and unknown quantifiers. Long time lurker, first time poster?

To answer the substance of your question, if you really want to solve this dilemma without doing any permanent damage to your reputation, you can tell your employer that you’re a convicted sex offender who has failed to register in accordance with the terms of your probation and you don’t need any unwanted publicity for a few months. If they value your services, they will understand.

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fuckup (Aug 20, 2018 - 12:17 pm)

I know this is a joke, but I don't think it's too crazy that there are times when people just don't want their pictures and workplaces public. I have to hope my firm understands, and in the end it's partially to protect them.

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caj111 (Aug 19, 2018 - 1:03 am)

Have you considered using Reputation Defender? I don't know much about it, or how it works, but it would be worth checking it out.

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fuckup (Aug 19, 2018 - 1:49 pm)

Yeah I'm looking into those services too. But my goal is to get the info removed completely and they can't do that.

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esquirewalletsmatter (Aug 19, 2018 - 9:05 pm)

Need more details here. Difficult to opine otherwise.

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fuckup (Aug 20, 2018 - 12:22 pm)

reputation defender generally is about pushing negative posts down. I want the posts removed for good but for that I'll have to sue (or threaten to sue) for defamation, which I have only a year to do.

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pisces213 (Aug 20, 2018 - 6:49 am)

If you have a middle name, how about asking them to put just the initial for the first name?

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billionsmcmillions (Aug 20, 2018 - 8:24 pm)

I think you should look into going to Europe and then requesting Google remove the posts about you (or at least not to index them when people search), with the GDPR in play now Google may do it under the right to be forgotten. My reading is that the GDPR protects those that are physically in the EU (regardless of citizenship). Go there, do some things on your Google account or create a new one while there, then make the request for them to "forget" you while still in the EU. If it doesn't work at least you get a trip out of it.

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fuckup (Aug 20, 2018 - 11:23 pm)

Interesting. Once you are "forgotten" are you safe in the US too?

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jstalin (Aug 27, 2018 - 8:31 pm)

Nope. They only de-index in europe, not the US.

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onehell (Aug 21, 2018 - 12:16 pm)

Every lawyer has dealt with a crazy or two over the years. It's practically a rite of passage. Explain it to them proactively and I'm sure they'll understand. As someone above said, "get in front of it." That's very good advice IMHO.

Also, we now live in a world of mass shootings and the like. If a crazy has targeted you, a law firm or any other employer would be foolish to deny a request that may protect the personal safety of not just you, but all the firm's clients employees and anyone else they might have contact with.

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nycatt (Aug 21, 2018 - 12:28 pm)

One hell is right. My current boss got a on few slanderous websites by suing crazies. I have definitely had to deal with some insane pro ses threatening to get me disbarred every week for doing normal stuff.

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fuckup (Aug 22, 2018 - 5:10 am)

Thanks. If I pursue the legal action I do think I'll need to make the request. If my firm demands to know all that happened, then I won't look great and my job could even be in jeopardy. But I'd be making the request in order to protect the firm and hopefully I'd get some credit for that.

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fuckup (Aug 26, 2018 - 7:01 pm)

This is gonna be tough. I might lose my job but to save my long term reputation it may have to be done.

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jstalin (Aug 27, 2018 - 8:00 pm)

Is this defamation ongoing? I have experience with this issue and, to be frank, there's very little you can do. And poking the bear may make it worse, depending on your situation.

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fuckup (Aug 27, 2018 - 8:15 pm)

Its not leaving the internet so it might as well be ongoing

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jstalin (Aug 27, 2018 - 8:26 pm)

I mean is the person who did the defaming continuing to post things?

Keep in mind that sites like ripoff report will not remove things. Even if you get a judgment and have google remove search results, sites will just change the URL and google will re-index.

Maybe, without outing yourself, you could post a little detail on the situation... why did the person defame? An ex? Pissed off client? Are they in the same state as you? What site(s) did they post on?

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doublefriedchicken (Aug 28, 2018 - 12:55 pm)

Why don't you just sue them? Whether the suit has merit, I'd assume whomever did this would probably take the posts down quietly. Who wants to deal with a lawsuit?

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fuckup (Aug 29, 2018 - 8:09 am)

Its a possibility but worried about the situation going more public and getting even more publicity.

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