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Drafting a law review article, according to many, does not b wallypancake09/12/18
Confidence is something every client likes and responds to. nycatt09/13/18
It got Trump elected. jeffm09/12/18
ROFL. catwoman33309/12/18
I second what nycatt stated. There are certain clients whic greenhorn09/13/18
This. And when you explain the likely risks and the cli nycatt09/13/18
I second what nycatt stated. There are certain clients whic greenhorn09/13/18
"I second what nycatt stated. " Quite literally, it would wutwutwut09/13/18
Swagger sells to dopes, losers, and shysters. I like the isthisit09/13/18
wallypancake (Sep 12, 2018 - 3:03 pm)

Drafting a law review article, according to many, does not bring in clients. It is good for the resume and will help a law professor move along the tenure track but is not a client magnet, so they say. Does the same apply to swagger? Regarding an attorney who claims that he is so good and just simply puts out a better product than others, does it bring in clients? Does having that swagger get you anywhere?

Of course, confidence is important. No one wants to hire someone who is not sure of himself. But does swagger help? Or does it only bring in the sleazy loan shark clients who are going to fight about paying each nickel?

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nycatt (Sep 13, 2018 - 10:57 am)

Confidence is something every client likes and responds to. As far as swagger, or unfounded optimism/bravado, some clients like this, but not a majority, and not the smart ones or anyone who is seeing a lawyer for the second time. I do business law (real estate litigation and contract litigation mostly), and those people see lawyers often. The smart one know that swagger is usually misplaced because they have been burned before or have simply seen a several cases play out. My boss will always tell a potential client how crappy their case is with total confidence and what results are likely to happen, and it usually seems to make them want her more. Some, like Donald Trump, will always be drawn to false confidence, but they make horrible clients. I have had those type before and they are soooo bad, they aren't worth it. May vary based on other areas.

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jeffm (Sep 12, 2018 - 4:29 pm)

It got Trump elected.

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catwoman333 (Sep 12, 2018 - 11:40 pm)

ROFL.

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greenhorn (Sep 13, 2018 - 11:53 am)

I second what nycatt stated. There are certain clients which love the idea of a "bulldog," attorney, that promises them the moon and everything in between. These types of clients are usually terrible people. They are usually the ones who are committing the wrong, they often times are cheap to pay your fees or to replenish their retainer and they have very high and unrealistic expectations of how their case will go. When things go south, they are the first to accuse you of malpractice, being a bad lawyer, lying to them, etc, etc.

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nycatt (Sep 13, 2018 - 1:28 pm)

This.

And when you explain the likely risks and the client/potential clients says "But don't you believe in my case?" -- run for the hills.

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greenhorn (Sep 13, 2018 - 11:53 am)

I second what nycatt stated. There are certain clients which love the idea of a "bulldog," attorney, that promises them the moon and everything in between. These types of clients are usually terrible people. They are usually the ones who are committing the wrong, they often times are cheap to pay your fees or to replenish their retainer and they have very high and unrealistic expectations of how their case will go. When things go south, they are the first to accuse you of malpractice, being a bad lawyer, lying to them, etc, etc.

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wutwutwut (Sep 13, 2018 - 2:17 pm)

"I second what nycatt stated. "

Quite literally, it would appear.

:-)

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isthisit (Sep 13, 2018 - 3:59 pm)

Swagger sells to dopes, losers, and shysters.

I like the Bill Clinton approach "hey, it's me your pal Isthisit and I feel your pain. Now your case isn't the greatest. Let's be frank here. But we're going to try our darnedest for you. I can't guarantee we'll be successful but you can rest assured knowing I'll do everything I can to win. Now sign here, pay the retainer, sit down with the paralegal to get your forms done, and get the hell out of that seat. There are more PCs waiting consults."

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