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I decided to move on from the PI firm I've been working at f legalbeagle10/24/18
The eight years won’t count for salary purposes because it billcarson10/24/18
I really want to help undocumented immigrants get their gree legalbeagle10/24/18
"I may just have an idealistic view of how the practice of i jeffm10/24/18
Not to mention that you will be f*cked financially if you do kappel10/24/18
legalbeagle (Oct 24, 2018 - 10:01 am)

I decided to move on from the PI firm I've been working at for 10 years. Unhappy with how the firm is run, how the staff is treated, underappreciated, and overworked. Been an attorney for 2 years. I have a family and have been planning on expanding really soon. I'm really done with PI although I'm pretty good at it. Should I stick with another PI firm or move on? What I'm really passionate about is immigration law, but I would expect a huge pay cut. Should I wait until the end of the year? How much are firms paying 2nd year associates in a big city? How can I make the 8 years of experience prior to being admitted count? My current firm is not going to be happy about me leaving. They are vindictive. How do I explain to an interviewer that I would prefer they not contact this firm?

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billcarson (Oct 24, 2018 - 12:00 pm)

The eight years won’t count for salary purposes because it isn’t law practice and is unrelated to immigration.

The good news is you realize you hate PI and understand you may need a paycut to change. Most lawyers are too arrogant or out-of-touch to see this.

What type of immigration are you interested in? Its like saying you want to do Corporate Law. Give us an idea of your expectations and we can give you an idea of what you can do to move towards that expectation.

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legalbeagle (Oct 24, 2018 - 1:23 pm)

I really want to help undocumented immigrants get their green cards, citizenship etc. I feel and know I can be an asset because I am the daughter of immigrants, first to graduate high school, college, etc. And I grew up in a community surrounded by undocumented immigrants and saw firsthand how they work, pay taxes etc. I may just have an idealistic view of how the practice of immigration law actually is, but I really am tired of feeling like I'm working on an assembly line; filing motions, opposing motions, settling cases, drafting pleadings etc etc. It's not fulfilling, and I know my skills can be put to good use in actually helping people.

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jeffm (Oct 24, 2018 - 3:57 pm)

"I may just have an idealistic view of how the practice of immigration law actually is, but I really am tired of feeling like I'm working on an assembly line; filing motions, opposing motions, settling cases, drafting pleadings etc etc. It's not fulfilling, and I know my skills can be put to good use in actually helping people."

Haha! You think it will be a change. Wait until you have a nice stack of immigration files for a bunch of %$%^-up clients who can't follow simple orders, including not committing crimes, etc.

Since you have come to believe that your PI work is not "actually helping people," I think what you are saying is you don't care enough about these people to continue to do the kind of work you are doing. Immigration will quickly come to that, too. You can run, but you can't hide. ;-)

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kappel (Oct 24, 2018 - 5:04 pm)

Not to mention that you will be f*cked financially if you do EOIR in the way you make it sound that you want to do it- taking on cases because of idealism without any mention of a filter. This is according to my friends who practice immigration law. In PI you don't have to collect from your clients. In EOIR you will have to. Your clients must pay money up front, because you won't see any money from them otherwise. And you have to know how to spot a whole string of red flags to make sure that your clients' fact patterns fit the only 3 ways to successfully defend someone from deportation. If your clients' fact patterns don't fit those 3 strategies, you are looking at glorified hand holding where the client WILL later come after you for inadequate representation out of desperation to stay in the U.S.

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