Celebrating 10 years! 2007-2017

PTO Survey: years in, PTO this year, most PTO ever, type of job

Years: 4 as of today! Current PTO: 5 days Office is close billcarson10/31/18
I’m a solo so there’s no such thing as paid time off dingbat10/31/18
Sounds horrible. Flyer14 is the clear winner in the bottom o billcarson10/31/18
Second inning is when I describe my schedule. Week of 29 flyer1410/31/18
You go to way too many CLEs. Is this an annual reporting sta billcarson10/31/18
Biannual. I keep an active license so I can represent my LLC flyer1410/31/18
Damn. MN allows nonattorneys to represent companies in Small billcarson10/31/18
You may know that, but no one else does. The worst that c dingbat10/31/18
Keep license inactive. Don’t have the problem. Gg. billcarson10/31/18
7.5 years out; Current PTO - 10 vacation days. I think we g jd4hire10/31/18
Four years ago today (about two hours ago) I learned that I flyer1410/31/18
Probs get a pension too...FML. jd4hire10/31/18
Years in: Over 10 (admitted 2005) Current PTO: 33 days fo associatex10/31/18
I take off whenever I want. Nobody keeps track. No billable thirdtierlaw10/31/18
37 total as 12 holidays and 25 days combined vacation/sick/p wutwutwut10/31/18
New job, many years in 15 days vacation, 15 days sick fettywap10/31/18
Years in: 20 plus. Vacation: 14 paid holidays, 32 vacatio jdusolo11/01/18
"Currently have a little over 200 sick days" Neat. I kno wutwutwut11/02/18
2 1/2 years in at current employer, 23 days total PTO if you doctorseuss11/01/18
Years in: 3 13 days vacation. 13 sick days. 10 holidays. lawrunner31711/01/18
Weren’t you the one stuck in building 16? flyer1411/01/18
8 years in, 2 years at this job. In addition to holidays, we 2breedbares11/02/18
8 years in all with the same Consulting firm. 11 holidays tttnoregrets11/02/18
Sweet! (Edit, sorry if not clear, this comment was with rega wutwutwut11/02/18
That is correct. Historically the firm has paid out balance tttnoregrets11/02/18
I'll bite: Years in: 5 15 days vacation. 15 sick days. lilgub11/09/18

billcarson (Oct 31, 2018 - 8:14 am)

Years: 4 as of today!

Current PTO: 5 days Office is closed (NYD, Mem Day, Labor Day, Tgiving Day, Cmas Day) + 39 hours floating PTO= 9 full days off, plus 7 hrs

Most PTO ever: first job was closed 9 days a year with 3.5 hrs PTO accruing every pay period AND 1 hr sick pay accruing every week.= about 25 days.

Type: private practice all 4 years

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dingbat (Oct 31, 2018 - 9:23 am)

I’m a solo so there’s no such thing as paid time off

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billcarson (Oct 31, 2018 - 10:01 am)

Sounds horrible. Flyer14 is the clear winner in the bottom of the first inning.

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flyer14 (Oct 31, 2018 - 10:29 am)

Second inning is when I describe my schedule.

Week of 29 Oct: in two week training class where it’s ostensibly 8-5, but we haven’t stayed past 3:30 once so far. We’ve been blazing through the material.

5 Nov: second week of class

12 Nov: off Monday for Veterans Day, so a 4 day work week

19 Nov: off the entire week for Thanksgiving. I’ll take about 3 days of award time off so I barely dent my leave

26 Nov: off Monday just because I feel like it, and off Friday for a CLE onreal estate transactions. $50 off NBI seminars coupons all the way.

3 December: I’m going to get on a compressed work schedule. Work 730-5 instead of 730-4 and take every other Monday off, because I hate Monday’s.

Taking some more time off around the holidays, indeterminate yet. But I’ll roll about 4 weeks of leave over into the next year. Plan on doing more travel in 2019.

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billcarson (Oct 31, 2018 - 10:43 am)

You go to way too many CLEs. Is this an annual reporting state? Go inactive IMHO. I did that in two states.

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flyer14 (Oct 31, 2018 - 10:48 am)

Biannual. I keep an active license so I can represent my LLC in court

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billcarson (Oct 31, 2018 - 10:57 am)

Damn. MN allows nonattorneys to represent companies in Small Claims and Housing Court... I suggest you look into that for Ohio’s courts. If you are getting sued, I suggest you change up your compliance to prevent it going forward. Many successful businesses go decades without needing a lawyer in the organization.

I’d never keep my law license active once I left Law practice. You are held to higher duties of care and expectations with it active.

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dingbat (Oct 31, 2018 - 11:55 am)

You may know that, but no one else does.

The worst that can happen for not abiding by the higher duty of care is losing your license

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billcarson (Oct 31, 2018 - 11:58 am)

Keep license inactive. Don’t have the problem. Gg.

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jd4hire (Oct 31, 2018 - 9:30 am)

7.5 years out; Current PTO - 10 vacation days. I think we get about 6 or so holidays where the office is closed.

Most PTO - Staff counsel for large carrier - 4 weeks PTO.

First job - 10 days; Second job 20 days; Third job - 15 days; Fourth job - 10 days...

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flyer14 (Oct 31, 2018 - 9:32 am)

Four years ago today (about two hours ago) I learned that I earned a passing score on the bar.

I started in garbagelaw. No PTO, you worked when you had work. Either that or the bills didn’t get paid.

Now I work as a Fed. 10 holidays, 20 vacation, 13 sick, plus various bonuses, awards, and comp time (varies but averages about 10 days a year).

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jd4hire (Oct 31, 2018 - 9:34 am)

Probs get a pension too...FML.

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associatex (Oct 31, 2018 - 12:41 pm)

Years in: Over 10 (admitted 2005)

Current PTO: 33 days for 2018. My company honors 8-9 paid holidays. We dont get "sick/personal" its all just PTO. Employees are also allowed to "buy" up to 6 extra PTO days each December (if not used, can just cash out the following December). So my 33 is really 27 base PTO days + 6 purchased days.

Most PTO ever: probably now. When I reach my 15th year, I will get another 3 extra PTO days.

Type of Job: I work for a carrier as staff counsel so I started out w/ 20 PTO days and I get 3 extra days every 5 years. I have been here over 10 years now. I also didnt use a few days last year so I get a max of 3 days to carry over. I usually use up 3 weeks by the summer to go overseas- next year planning to hit Hawaii.

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thirdtierlaw (Oct 31, 2018 - 3:25 pm)

I take off whenever I want. Nobody keeps track. No billable requirement for the win.

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wutwutwut (Oct 31, 2018 - 5:56 pm)

37 total as 12 holidays and 25 days combined vacation/sick/personal PTO same as associatex mentioned. Lawyer job that makes it somewhat hard to take the time off. There's no selling of excess at year's end, but we can roll 5 days into the next year, which just makes the (admittedly 1st-world) problem worse. Any unused over that is forfeit and I've forfeited at worst 11 days, most years just a few days. It's not like it matters a whole lot since I'm working 3-4 hours a day even if "off on vacation".


Most ever: 40 days when I was in the military, as 30 VL days plus 10 federal holidays. Sojer job but not a real grunt like tricky or eagleton.


But you had to pull shenanigans in the military in order to avoid burning weekend days as VL, because as soon as you left the duty site we had to officially sign out with someone, so we were burning VL if we left on Friday night and signed back in Monday morning. One XO insisted we come in on Monday morning to sign out if we were taking leave M-F but I countered that he needed to meet me there at 12:01 a.m. to sign out since that's when my leave officially started. We settled on a midnight call to his house to sign out, whereupon he called me immediately back to make sure I was "really" still at home and not 400 miles away at my folks house already. Thank goodness for call forwarding...

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fettywap (Oct 31, 2018 - 9:41 pm)

New job, many years in

15 days vacation, 15 days sick

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jdusolo (Nov 1, 2018 - 2:33 pm)

Years in: 20 plus.

Vacation: 14 paid holidays, 32 vacation/personal leave/etc annually. Accrual increased at the 20 year mark. 15 sick days annually, which you get to carry over. Currently have a little over 200 sick days.

Employer: State Agency.

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wutwutwut (Nov 2, 2018 - 11:39 am)

"Currently have a little over 200 sick days"

Neat. I know people with similar (and some older with a lot more accumulated). They get to basically cash them in when they resign/retire.

Almost like getting a nice severance, or a head start on retirement.

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doctorseuss (Nov 1, 2018 - 2:37 pm)

2 1/2 years in at current employer, 23 days total PTO if you count floating holidays, this is the most I've ever had, and in house counsel.

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lawrunner317 (Nov 1, 2018 - 3:58 pm)

Years in: 3

13 days vacation. 13 sick days. 10 holidays. Ability to flex off a day here or there and not use leave. Next year I’m up to 20 days vacation.

Typically get 4-5 days of award time off too each year.

Fed.

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flyer14 (Nov 1, 2018 - 4:17 pm)

Weren’t you the one stuck in building 16?

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2breedbares (Nov 2, 2018 - 11:37 am)

8 years in, 2 years at this job. In addition to holidays, we get about 25 days of PTO. This is the most PTO I've had. I also have a flex schedule. State agency.

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tttnoregrets (Nov 2, 2018 - 6:53 pm)

8 years in all with the same Consulting firm.

11 holidays
11 vacation days
3.33 hours sick per pay. Unlimited accrual. My current balance is 297 hours.

At the end of 8 years I will get another 5 days vacation, at 15 another 5 days, at 20 another 5 days.

I can also pretty much take days off whenever without using leave bank. Basically as long as you are doing a good job they don't give a hoot - adulting.

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wutwutwut (Nov 2, 2018 - 8:49 pm)

Sweet! (Edit, sorry if not clear, this comment was with regard to having bigtime accumulated sick time balance which can hopefully be used to turn into something like severance on separation)

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tttnoregrets (Nov 2, 2018 - 9:05 pm)

That is correct. Historically the firm has paid out balances to people that have retired and/or left. There is always the risk that policy could just change, but the hope would be that I am in the position of actually making those policy decisions when that time comes.

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lilgub (Nov 9, 2018 - 1:13 pm)

I'll bite:

Years in: 5

15 days vacation. 15 sick days. 4 Personal Days (non-bankable). 12 holidays. Flex time on a biweekly basis

I can bank a lot of vacay and even more sick to carry over going forward.

Local Govt.

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