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https://www.insidehighered.com/news /2018/10/31/valparaiso-la 6figuremistake10/31/18
Haha... Working OT to con the last batch of idiots. triplesix10/31/18
Yeah, if they're in a teach-out, can't the students drop out 6figuremistake10/31/18
Yes, they can, and you're absolutely right that a school's a onehell10/31/18
Of those remaining hundred, about 80 are 3Ls who will gradua inindiana10/31/18
Exactly. Valpo Law has been bleeding money, and since it's dupednontraditional11/01/18
From the article it sounds like they want students to take a soupcansham11/01/18
6figuremistake (Oct 31, 2018 - 12:02 pm)

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2018/10/31/valparaiso-law-school-will-close-following-unsuccessful-attempt-transfer-middle

Valparaiso University announced Tuesday that Valparaiso Law School will close following an unsuccessful attempt to transfer the law school to Middle Tennessee State University.

The law school is working with the Higher Learning Commission and the American Bar Association to develop a teach-out plan that will ensure the remaining 100 second- and third-year students finish their degrees.

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triplesix (Oct 31, 2018 - 1:23 pm)

Haha... Working OT to con the last batch of idiots.

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6figuremistake (Oct 31, 2018 - 1:29 pm)

Yeah, if they're in a teach-out, can't the students drop out and get their loans cancelled? If so, I assume the administration isn't exactly going to advertise that option.

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onehell (Oct 31, 2018 - 2:27 pm)

Yes, they can, and you're absolutely right that a school's administration will do everything it can to keep that fact quiet, but for the life of me I can't figure out why people who want to be lawyers don't research this.

DOE is very clear that students are under no obligation to accept a teach-out arrangement and can get the school closure discharge if they decline. But if so much as a single transfer credit is accepted by another institution, they lose that once in a lifetime, golden mulligan opportunity.

Alas, if they were the kinds of people who did their homework, they wouldn't have enrolled at a low-ranked law school in the first place.

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inindiana (Oct 31, 2018 - 1:48 pm)

Of those remaining hundred, about 80 are 3Ls who will graduate this spring. Based on the most recent IN bar results, approximately 50% can expect to pass. There are 17 2Ls left out of an entering class of 29, so 12 have already bailed. There are no 1Ls as the school didn't admit any in the last cycle.

The open question is what will Valpo do for the 2019-20 school year? The central administration is losing a lot of money on the place currently, and how much more will be lost keeping lawprofs on the payroll to get just 17 more students through their 3L year?

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dupednontraditional (Nov 1, 2018 - 12:34 pm)

Exactly. Valpo Law has been bleeding money, and since it's apparently all about the cost proposition now after 140-ish years of existence, then large losses for 17 students doesn't make sense to the university at large. You would think they would quietly invite them to do the drop-out/loans-cancelled thing, but maybe they are worried word would get out as onehell said.

Or maybe they will maintain the Thrivent Financial mindset on this after all, and bravely take the hit. "Focused on People, Not Profits," and all that liberty/justice jazz...

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soupcansham (Nov 1, 2018 - 1:06 pm)

From the article it sounds like they want students to take a semester or two at one of the Chicago schools and then Valpo will accept transfer credits to award degrees.

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