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Law School Closures

It would have been nice to see a big wave wipe out the botto 6figuremistake10/31/18
Thomas Jefferson School of Law - not accepting new students blawprof10/31/18
I think Florida Coastal is on life support at this point. wutwutwut10/31/18
To be strictly accurate, I wouldn't count Cooley's AA campus lawprof10/31/18
Sometimes, branch campuses of law schools are separately acc legalace11/01/18
The weird thing is, that kid we had on here highly intereste wutwutwut11/01/18
It all comes down to the next recsssion and what the govt do massivemissive10/31/18
Not enough! triplesix11/01/18
180. Only about 130 to go. midlaw11/01/18
It is not enough. Unless the ABA starts requiring salary jdcumlaude11/01/18
6figuremistake (Oct 31, 2018 - 2:13 pm)

It would have been nice to see a big wave wipe out the bottom tier law schools, but given just how hard it is to take these student loan conduits out, it's impressive that any of them have given up the ghost.

By my count (after Valpo's closure), we're up to 8 ABA/provisional ABA schools biting the dust.

Cooley - Ann Arbor
Hamline (Constructive closure - merged with William Mitchell)
Indiana Tech - Provisional accreditation
Whittier*
Charlotte
Savannah
Arizona Summit
Valparaiso*

* - ABA accredited school with a long history

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blawprof (Oct 31, 2018 - 3:51 pm)

Thomas Jefferson School of Law - not accepting new students for the spring and moved out of its building

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wutwutwut (Oct 31, 2018 - 5:42 pm)

I think Florida Coastal is on life support at this point.

Vermont LS may also be on life support: dumped about 75% of its tenured faculty.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markcohen1/2018/07/18/when-the-numbers-dont-add-up-vermont-law-schools-tenured-faculty-purge-and-what-it-portends/

Some excerpts from the Forbe's article:

"Before jettisoning the bulk of its tenured faculty, Vermont Law touted a 4.3: 1 student faculty ratio. That ratio might be viewed as a plus from the student perspective until one learns that tuition is $47,998 and the total budgeted cost is a whopping $73,407 per year. That brings the three-year total — exclusive of lost opportunity cost and debt service—to about $220K [ed: "exclusive of" = SOMEONE in the media actually gets LOC and that money borrowed is less than money owed on graduation]. A quick review of the school’s placement statistics reveals that for most students, this is a questionable investment. Vermont’s employment at graduation rate is 31.9%; median salary is $60K (for those with jobs) in the private sector and $47,979 in the public sector..."

"The sad story for Vermont Law students—and thousands of others around the country—was not always this way. Net of adjustment for inflation, law students today pay 2.71 times what their predecessors did three decades ago. The job market was more promising then, too--in part because there was not a glut of lawyers and clients tacitly accepted funding on-the- job training for baby lawyers."

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lawprof (Oct 31, 2018 - 5:47 pm)

To be strictly accurate, I wouldn't count Cooley's AA campus and Savannah (a branch of John Marshall Atlanta) as law school closures, since they were branch campuses of law schools rather than independently accredited entities.

I think another half dozen law schools will go in the next couple of years.

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legalace (Nov 1, 2018 - 12:33 pm)

Sometimes, branch campuses of law schools are separately accredited. For example, see Widener University:
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/legal_education/resources/aba_approved_law_schools/private_law_schools/

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wutwutwut (Nov 1, 2018 - 12:38 pm)

The weird thing is, that kid we had on here highly interested in Savannah (just about a month before the closed up shop) didn't know it was a satellite. He claimed he'd told by the admissions staff that it was separately accredited (as Savannah Law, not as a JMA satellite campus) by the ABA.

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massivemissive (Oct 31, 2018 - 6:18 pm)

It all comes down to the next recsssion and what the govt does.

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triplesix (Nov 1, 2018 - 8:24 am)

Not enough!

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midlaw (Nov 1, 2018 - 12:48 pm)

180. Only about 130 to go.

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jdcumlaude (Nov 1, 2018 - 1:50 pm)

It is not enough.

Unless the ABA starts requiring salary stats to be reported, or the Dept of Education creates a more robust reporting standard for employment; there will always be non-profit schools using for-profit tactics to convince unwitting/desperate college grads that law school is a good investment.

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