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Quitting

I've decided to leave my current job. Mainly because of the legalbeagle11/01/18
“Gentlemen: I am resigning from the firm on November 15 billcarson11/01/18
... and when asked, tell them "I want to have more children, acerimmer11/01/18
This is the correct response. Nothing ever said in an exit i doctorseuss11/01/18
they're not. they already have a bad reputation amongst a ra legalbeagle11/01/18
Never burn your bridges. The rest is details. massivemissive11/01/18
^ Agreed. You may never need those bridges, but when you bittersweet11/02/18
Always burn your bridges. Its fun and it feels good. F those johnsmith11/01/18
Just tell them you're leaving. Offer to write transfer memos thirdtierlaw11/01/18
i do. legalbeagle11/01/18
Why not give some level of truth, but don't go scorched Eart jd4hire11/01/18
they have no good in them. legalbeagle11/05/18
OPs sole job is to get his computer files and personal effec billcarson11/01/18
"Ladies and Gentleman, I submit my formal resignation and wallypancake11/01/18
Don’t give a reason. No good can come of that. Leave it dingbat11/01/18
I’d tell them the truth. Get it off your chest. You’ll r jeremiahwright11/02/18
Just give your two-weeks notice, and don't tell them too muc patenttrollnj11/03/18
This. NEVER burn bridges in this business. Give two wee snot311/03/18
yea I wasn't planning on complaining. enough people have don legalbeagle11/05/18
I once had a situation where I gave them 2 weeks notice and wallypancake11/07/18
I'm going to do that. But these people are so dramatic and h legalbeagle11/07/18
You are an adult... Considering acting like it. If you want triplesix11/07/18
i understand that. I also started working at the firm when I legalbeagle11/07/18
Don't flush... A lil revenage goes a long way. triplesix11/07/18

legalbeagle (Nov 1, 2018 - 1:44 pm)

I've decided to leave my current job. Mainly because of the toxic environment. My issue is what to say to the partners. I really want to tell them they're incompetent, greedy a holes who don't know how to treat their staff. But I can't and shouldn't. I can make it nice and tell them my time has come to move on. But I know they will try everything to keep me, but I have made up my mind that no matter what incentives they offer, nothing will convince me to stay here any longer. Should I tell them I'm moving far far away? Decided to stay home with my toddler and soon to come baby? Should I give them 2 weeks notice or 4? Others who have worked here 20+ years have gotten the stink eye and cold shoulder the weeks following their resignation announcement. I don't think I'd be able to deal with that for 4 weeks.

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billcarson (Nov 1, 2018 - 1:46 pm)

“Gentlemen:

I am resigning from the firm on November 15, 2018, or at any time sooner upon request.


Sincerely,



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acerimmer (Nov 1, 2018 - 2:21 pm)

... and when asked, tell them "I want to have more children, and I just don't want to juggle this much any more. I'm sorry."

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doctorseuss (Nov 1, 2018 - 2:35 pm)

This is the correct response. Nothing ever said in an exit interview ever helped anything. And while it's tempting to have a "reason," frankly that doesn't help either. When it's time to go, it's time to go. And providing more details, especially if they stretch the truth, can hurt any chances at keeping the bridges to the other individuals open. "Pursuing other opportunities" is a good phrase to throw around.

Ultimately though, I've left toxic environments before, and the people there generally aren't worth keeping up with anyway.

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legalbeagle (Nov 1, 2018 - 2:39 pm)

they're not. they already have a bad reputation amongst a rather small, but influential circle. we've had people leave here because of terminal illnesses and they still find a way to contact them in hopes of them putting in a day or two of work. they are having a hard time keeping people, but it's all on them. I've been here 10 years and I know they're going to feel "entitled" to a "real" reason because they probably feel they invested so much in me. They've been told by many staff members, both past and present, that they're running this place to the ground and they refuse to see it that way. It's us not them.

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massivemissive (Nov 1, 2018 - 3:13 pm)

Never burn your bridges. The rest is details.

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bittersweet (Nov 2, 2018 - 6:59 pm)

^ Agreed.

You may never need those bridges, but when you burn them those ember may smolder for years and burn you when you least expect it.

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johnsmith (Nov 1, 2018 - 3:18 pm)

Always burn your bridges. Its fun and it feels good. F those people. When you leave, steal half their clients.

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thirdtierlaw (Nov 1, 2018 - 3:21 pm)

Just tell them you're leaving. Offer to write transfer memos for anything that is still open and then leave it at that. Do you have another job lined up?

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legalbeagle (Nov 1, 2018 - 4:46 pm)

i do.

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jd4hire (Nov 1, 2018 - 3:37 pm)

Why not give some level of truth, but don't go scorched Earth? They might dislike it, but a person with any good in them might respect you for it. And if not, eff them.

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legalbeagle (Nov 5, 2018 - 12:28 pm)

they have no good in them.

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billcarson (Nov 1, 2018 - 3:58 pm)

OPs sole job is to get his computer files and personal effects out of the buildings.

It is childish to lecture old gutterlaw crows on how to run their firm. Toxicity and turnover is a feature not a bug.

OP had realized his goal and actualized his goal.

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wallypancake (Nov 1, 2018 - 4:40 pm)

"Ladies and Gentleman,

I submit my formal resignation and will no longer be part of the firm as of [November 15]. While I have gained valuable experience, created friendships, and felt that I contributed to the success of the firm, I am looking at new opportunities. While I am excited about the next phase of my life, I will always appreciate my time at [ ]. I will continue to perform my duties until my employment with the firm ends and will help in anyway to make this transition as smooth as possible. Thank you for this opportunity over the last [ ] years.

Best,
Legal Beagle"

Give them two weeks, unless you have to give them more.

Don't tell them what to do with themselves; just be cordial. You should present this as the opportunity for you to move on to other things and not how trashy the firm is. A future employer will likely call this employer and it will only hurt you if you adopt a scorched earth policy. You will probably get the cold should but you'll be done with the place in 2 weeks anyway.

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dingbat (Nov 1, 2018 - 5:22 pm)

Don’t give a reason. No good can come of that. Leave it short and sweet.

First copy any files and contact info you want, then provide notice. Start contacting clients right away, and take as many as you can with you

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jeremiahwright (Nov 2, 2018 - 8:27 pm)

I’d tell them the truth. Get it off your chest. You’ll respect yourself later.

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patenttrollnj (Nov 3, 2018 - 6:54 am)

Just give your two-weeks notice, and don't tell them too much. Just tell them you want to do something else--FULL STOP!

If they do call you into an exit interview, just say pleasant things. You don't want to burn any brides in case you need some sort of reference.

If you actually do start complaining, they'll just disregard what you're saying.

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snot3 (Nov 3, 2018 - 4:24 pm)

This. NEVER burn bridges in this business.

Give two weeks and that's it. That's the standard and nobody can say anything.

I'm in gov. and every time I leave I always give a month or six weeks because I think it's the right thing to do. I'm a non brown nosing cog.

I watch every time an a$$ kisser leaves, they give the standard two weeks (and that's after they've mysteriously been sick for a week or two using up sick time) because they're on to the next and could care less about giving anything more than what's standard.

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legalbeagle (Nov 5, 2018 - 12:27 pm)

yea I wasn't planning on complaining. enough people have done that and nothing changes. I guess 2 weeks is what I'll do. I know they're going to pull the "well after all these years we're entitled to more than 2 weeks notice..." but at this point I couldn't care less.

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wallypancake (Nov 7, 2018 - 12:00 pm)

I once had a situation where I gave them 2 weeks notice and they stretched it out to 3.5. I realized that they strung me along. I should have been more adamant that 2 weeks is a proper amount of time to give and if they have issues then it is their problem. You should give them notice in a firm way without room for discussion.

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legalbeagle (Nov 7, 2018 - 2:20 pm)

I'm going to do that. But these people are so dramatic and hold on to grudges forever. I don't want a dramatic exit, but I don't think I have a choice at this point.

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triplesix (Nov 7, 2018 - 2:49 pm)

You are an adult... Considering acting like it. If you want crap on them do it, but as others said it might blow back. Or just bounce same day with one word email. There are is nothing they can do about either.

I don't see why you are getting bent out of shape over people that you say you dislike.

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legalbeagle (Nov 7, 2018 - 4:30 pm)

i understand that. I also started working at the firm when I was fresh out of college and was very naïve. that caused me to become emotionally involved and easily manipulated. I already decided on giving them 2 weeks and no more. I just can't wait to be done with it.

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triplesix (Nov 7, 2018 - 5:18 pm)

Don't flush... A lil revenage goes a long way.

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