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AI outperforms real lawyers in a head-to-head analysis of NDA agreement

https://www.lawgeex.com/AIvsLawyer/ whiteguyinchina11/04/18
accuracy level lawyer - 85% AI - 94% time taken lawye whiteguyinchina11/04/18
what they didn't mention was the cost cost to review law whiteguyinchina11/04/18
Repeat after me: There is no other path to success excep wearyattorney11/04/18
what a load of excrement dingbat11/05/18
Good. mtbislife11/04/18
if your job is in any sense boring or repetitive, and secret whiteguyinchina11/05/18
I had an acquaintance who was happily telling me how with ch dingbat11/05/18
I'm a big fan of technology. The AI articles have been goin jd4hire11/05/18
They said the same about driverless cars and here we are. mtbislife11/05/18
it only took 50+ years. The first real-world tests of sel dingbat11/05/18
It wont take that long to replace lawyers that redline contr mtbislife11/05/18
Half the attorneys I've worked with over the years weren't w dingbat11/05/18
Gotta justify their paycheck somehow. mtbislife11/05/18
Transactional law and compliance is going to be hit the hard thirdtierlaw11/05/18
Doc review is still alive and well, even though we heard tha wallypancake11/05/18
The volume of data is increasing, but I routinely (in almost superttthero11/06/18
But can you sue AI for a fat malpractice claim? Can you m jmoney11/05/18
i don't think we are able to grasp fully the changes ahead. whiteguyinchina11/05/18
AI will be a person under the law, like a corporation. pr whiteguyinchina11/06/18
whiteguyinchina (Nov 4, 2018 - 4:15 pm)

https://www.lawgeex.com/AIvsLawyer/

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whiteguyinchina (Nov 4, 2018 - 4:16 pm)

accuracy level
lawyer - 85%
AI - 94%

time taken
lawyer - 1.5 hours
AI - 26 seconds

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whiteguyinchina (Nov 4, 2018 - 4:23 pm)

what they didn't mention was the cost

cost to review
lawyer - 1.5 hours * $300 USD = $450 USD
AI - ?????

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wearyattorney (Nov 4, 2018 - 4:40 pm)

Repeat after me:

There is no other path to success except going to college. There is no other path to success except going to college. There is no other path to success except going to college...

Tenured faculty can make one million dollars a year holding down a consulting gig in any sector of the economy, and they teach purely for altruistic reasons. Tenured faculty can make one million dollars a year holding down a consulting gig in any sector of the economy, and they teach purely for altruistic reasons. Tenured faculty can make one million dollars a year holding down a consulting gig in any sector of the economy, and they teach purely for altruistic reasons...

Free trade as defined by China is a good thing. Free trade as defined by China is a good thing. Free trade as defined by China is a good thing...

The Democractic Party is the party of the working class. The Democratic Party is the party of the working class. The Democratic Party is the party of the working class...

There is no difference between income earned by trading time and income from profits and rent. There is no difference between income earned by trading time and income from profits and rent. There is no difference between income earned by trading time and income from profits and rent...

If you make 100k a year, you are rich. If you make 100k a year, you are rich. If you make 100k a year, you are rich...

Automation will only impact low level manufacturing jobs. Automation will only impact low level manufacturing jobs. Automation will only impact low lever manufacturing jobs...

If you are not for unlimited outsourcing, immigration, and college for all, you are a racist. If you are not for unlimited outsourcing, immigration, and college for all, you are a racist.If you are not for unlimited outsourcing, immigration, and college for all, you are a racist...

The richest people in the world are not Democrats. The richest people in the world are not Democrats. The richest people in th world are not Democrats...

Warren Buffett is for the working class. Warrant Buffett is for the working class. Warrant Buffett is for the working class...

Paid for by Hillary Clinton for President 2020.

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dingbat (Nov 5, 2018 - 1:53 pm)

what a load of excrement

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mtbislife (Nov 4, 2018 - 6:13 pm)

Good.

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whiteguyinchina (Nov 5, 2018 - 4:23 am)

if your job is in any sense boring or repetitive, and secretely you know anyone with a bit of training can do it, i would be very concerned about the next ten years.

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dingbat (Nov 5, 2018 - 1:54 pm)

I had an acquaintance who was happily telling me how with changes in technology he has a lot more free time at work. Less hours, relaxing, can read a book from time to time.

I had to stop myself from laughing

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jd4hire (Nov 5, 2018 - 9:07 am)

I'm a big fan of technology. The AI articles have been going for quite a while now with increasing frequency as we move forward. I frankly am not convinced it will happen at any point during my career (I'd say I have about 35 years left). I also am convinced that it won't have that much impact on me (PI litigation).

I think the doom and gloom predictions are a little over the top.

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mtbislife (Nov 5, 2018 - 11:42 am)

They said the same about driverless cars and here we are.

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dingbat (Nov 5, 2018 - 3:05 pm)

it only took 50+ years.

The first real-world tests of self-driving cars were done in Nebraska in 1957

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mtbislife (Nov 5, 2018 - 3:51 pm)

It wont take that long to replace lawyers that redline contracts all day and argue over the placement of the word “reasonable.”

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dingbat (Nov 5, 2018 - 5:06 pm)

Half the attorneys I've worked with over the years weren't worth their wages.
I don't know how often documents would come back with redline changes that literally change nothing.

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mtbislife (Nov 5, 2018 - 7:57 pm)

Gotta justify their paycheck somehow.

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thirdtierlaw (Nov 5, 2018 - 6:40 pm)

Transactional law and compliance is going to be hit the hardest by AI.

Litigation is a bit of a different animal, even if a lot could be automated. This is doubly true for the more unsavory practice areas like family law and criminal law. AI doesn't do well with lies.

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wallypancake (Nov 5, 2018 - 11:48 am)

Doc review is still alive and well, even though we heard that things are changing. There is plenty of space for high-achieving reviewers despite increased technological methods for extracting doc review information.

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superttthero (Nov 6, 2018 - 9:27 am)

The volume of data is increasing, but I routinely (in almost every case) use predictive coding to get rid of 50% - 95% of a universe of documents that would have gone to reviewers. At some point the AI review will outpace the increase in data. It wont be super far since also the law is widening what current tech can do... govt agencies are increasingly open to it all too.

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jmoney (Nov 5, 2018 - 12:23 pm)

But can you sue AI for a fat malpractice claim?

Can you make AI pay yearly bar dues?

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whiteguyinchina (Nov 5, 2018 - 9:09 pm)

i don't think we are able to grasp fully the changes ahead.

it will not take 50 years. maybe 10-15. with 5g tech, you can gather even more data and control even more stuff from orbit. they estimate the biggest use of bandwith in future will be driverless cars.

another thing about AI, both china and US are investing huge sums into this as a matter of national security. two billion by US by 2020. china, who knows. prob. the same.

the data gathering will improve with 5G, the siris, the alexas, and the fact that the cel phones cos access your location, microphone and camera regardless of whether you know it or not.

what is certain is, lots and lots of people will be made redundant.

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whiteguyinchina (Nov 6, 2018 - 6:13 pm)

AI will be a person under the law, like a corporation.

prob. register it with some capital, like calitalizing a corp, or insure it, and off they go.

kill someone or screw up. oh well. the shareholders will be ok. we just scrap that model and go to 2.0.

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