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Trade LA/DC at 175k for Phoenix/Atlanta at 90k (Fedjob)?

Is this trade worth it? Assume significant savings and not hoosierdaddy11/25/18
depends on whether or not you want the change in lifestyle. dingbat11/25/18
Are you currently employed by the feds? It’s a good trade midlaw11/25/18
Depends, would you like what you're doing for the feds if yo thirdtierlaw11/25/18
Would be legal tech. And technically a demotion. Yes privat hoosierdaddy11/25/18
I love Phoenix but man that is a huge lifestyle change. Phoe tcpaul11/25/18
I lived in the Phoenix area and now live in LA. I prefer LA. corneroffice11/25/18
Cosigned. Traffic has become a mini-SoCal in Phoenix. The lawyer211/28/18
The math is easy. Is Phoenix worth losing $85,000/year? jeffm11/26/18
Normally, no. But he's also gaining that federal pension and onehell11/28/18
If $$$ is your only consideration, relocation makes sense be catwoman33311/27/18
hoosierdaddy (Nov 25, 2018 - 3:30 pm)

Is this trade worth it? Assume significant savings and not a homeowner currently.

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dingbat (Nov 25, 2018 - 4:09 pm)

depends on whether or not you want the change in lifestyle.

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midlaw (Nov 25, 2018 - 4:17 pm)

Are you currently employed by the feds? It’s a good trade if moving from private practice (most likely). Bad deal if fedjob to fedjob.

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thirdtierlaw (Nov 25, 2018 - 4:47 pm)

Depends, would you like what you're doing for the feds if you move? Fed gigs are quite overrated on here. I wouldn't make the switch just to get a fed gig. But if you like Arizona and would somewhat enjoy the work then it is definitely worth considering.

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hoosierdaddy (Nov 25, 2018 - 4:49 pm)

Would be legal tech. And technically a demotion. Yes private to fed.

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tcpaul (Nov 25, 2018 - 6:48 pm)

I love Phoenix but man that is a huge lifestyle change. Phoenix is a sleepy burg compared to LA/DC.

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corneroffice (Nov 25, 2018 - 7:49 pm)

I lived in the Phoenix area and now live in LA. I prefer LA. However, expect to pay about 2500 for a decent apartment in a nice area. Traffic is a nuisance. Takes a while to make friends and find your footing in LA. It's fast paced and a bit draining.

If you want to settle down and raise a family then Phoenix is the better choice. 175 is decent for LA but by no means will you be living high on the hog. Thankfully, I bought a small house in a great neighborhood that has tripled in value. Homeownership at your pay is possible, but will probably be at a less desirable location with a commute.

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lawyer2 (Nov 28, 2018 - 2:10 am)

Cosigned.
Traffic has become a mini-SoCal in Phoenix. The freeway's and surface streets are jammed pack from about 2-7pm. Living w/i walking/biking distance to your gig is the key to happiness but you will pay a premium. $2500+ for a decent space. On a side note, IMO, tech-law is setting yourself up for the future. Once the economy slides, I would not want to be doing what 85% of other attorneys know how to do.

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jeffm (Nov 26, 2018 - 9:27 am)

The math is easy. Is Phoenix worth losing $85,000/year?

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onehell (Nov 28, 2018 - 12:36 pm)

Normally, no. But he's also gaining that federal pension and job security. 175k is better right now, sure, but he's presumably just an at-will employee who could get canned tomorrow for any reason or no reason at all.

Phoenix has a lower COL, but probably not so much lower that it'd be worth losing 85k, I agree. However, a pension and a constitutionally-recognized property interest in your job might worth 85k/yr, considering that 175k could drop to zero at any time.

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catwoman333 (Nov 27, 2018 - 5:23 pm)

If $$$ is your only consideration, relocation makes sense because housing is less expensive in GA/AZ . But be mindful that relocation will not avoid some of the SAME challenges of life in LA/DC, namely: bad traffic, crime, strange weather.

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