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Federal jobs: temp vs. status positions

Curious if anybody has any thoughts on whether anybody has a jaydeeesquire12/16/18
do any lawyer jobs confer competitive status preference? I legaleagle22312/16/18
No, they are excepted service. For competitive service jobs downwardslope12/17/18
Hi jaydeeesquire. I declined agency AA job offer this year, catwoman33312/16/18
Nothing is easy anymore. At least with the fed job you get b mtbislife12/17/18
Seems like it would look really good on a resume if you don' fettywap12/17/18
I'm usually sick of my jobs within 2 years anyway. ++++++ catwoman33312/18/18
jaydeeesquire (Dec 16, 2018 - 4:49 pm)

Curious if anybody has any thoughts on whether anybody has any thoughts on whether it's worthwhile to take a federal job offer for a position that wouldn't confer status candidacy.

I've been offered a position as a law clerk for an administrative law judge at an executive branch agency. The catch is that it's a term position not to exceed a couple of years.

Because it's a term position, I would't have competitive status preference if I apply to another federal job later on. And I'm nervous about taking a job that has a firm end date.

On the other hand, I'd be gaining federal work experience in the term role. So even though I won't get to apply as a status candidate for positions afterward, I'll still have federal experience on my resume.

Has anybody else has been in a similar situation?

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legaleagle223 (Dec 16, 2018 - 5:55 pm)

do any lawyer jobs confer competitive status preference? I thought the job had to be in the competitive service and not excepted service for status

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downwardslope (Dec 17, 2018 - 8:01 pm)

No, they are excepted service. For competitive service jobs, I believe you have to be in the job 3 years to have competitive status.

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catwoman333 (Dec 16, 2018 - 6:56 pm)

Hi jaydeeesquire. I declined agency AA job offer this year, primarily due to gov. refusal to budge on GS rate (even for attys with a lot of experience), internet complaints from others about high stress/boredom and no chance of advancement beyond GS 12 level in these jobs. Another red flag for me was seeing the SAME positions advertised year after year, soliciting HUNDREDS of applicants. That probably = high turnover/burnout rates. Also, had I accepted a "temp" job but then left before the term expired, my quick departure would not look good on a resume.

That said, if you are a 20-something, newbie atty with limited job experience, a short-term (1-2 yr.) "stint" as a first job in the "real world" will probably not be a setback.

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mtbislife (Dec 17, 2018 - 9:29 am)

Nothing is easy anymore. At least with the fed job you get benefits and know your job is secured for a defined amount of time. What chance of advancement do you have working for a solo making 40k? If its either doc review or the fed job I would take the fed job.

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fettywap (Dec 17, 2018 - 8:09 pm)

Seems like it would look really good on a resume if you don't have anything better lined up. I'm usually sick of my jobs within 2 years anyway.

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catwoman333 (Dec 18, 2018 - 12:44 am)

I'm usually sick of my jobs within 2 years anyway.

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LOL. I thought I was the ONLY one who burned out so quickly....:). I used to try to hang in there for at least 2 years on avg, but the older I get, the less patient I am with awful jobs and office politics.

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