Remembering TCPaul, 2016-2019

What is the most valuable second language an American lawyer can learn?

I'm assuming it is Spanish, but I figured I would ask. ericcrapton01/07/19
Chinese or Spanish. jorgedeclaro01/07/19
Servicing non-English speaking clients in USA - Spanish. Wo jd4hire01/07/19
Whatever it is, it's not Latin. I took Latin in high school therewillbeblood01/07/19
Also no one pronounces the well-known quotes quote right. wutwutwut01/07/19
Yep. For Law Latin it's way off a lot of times. pro hac therewillbeblood01/07/19
Please don't pronounce Cicero as Kick-a-row - it is just too uknownvalue01/07/19
You have my permission to punch me in the face if I do that. therewillbeblood01/07/19
Yoolius Kaysar! wutwutwut01/08/19
some more obscure language is far more useful than a languag dingbat01/07/19
I am learning Bahasa. Super hard to gain conversational pro themapmaster01/08/19
Depende a tu area de practica. Yo hablo espanol y practico l isthisit01/07/19
I second the above. There are oceans of truly life-long bil thecharmingmresq01/07/19
As an adult learner, you will never be competitive on your s shitlawsf01/08/19
Russian, so you can communicated more easily with Vlad and t toooldtocare01/08/19
This ain't pol, buddy And what you said just ain't true. triplesix01/08/19
Sorry, buddy, but have to disagree. The proliferation of Ru toooldtocare01/08/19
ericcrapton (Jan 7, 2019 - 4:54 pm)

I'm assuming it is Spanish, but I figured I would ask.

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jorgedeclaro (Jan 7, 2019 - 4:55 pm)

Chinese or Spanish.

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jd4hire (Jan 7, 2019 - 4:58 pm)

Servicing non-English speaking clients in USA - Spanish. Working for an international firm or attempting to do so - Mandarin.

Response could differ depending upon where and what you do. If working in Northern Maine, it would be French.

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therewillbeblood (Jan 7, 2019 - 5:19 pm)

Whatever it is, it's not Latin. I took Latin in high school and college and it made me mess up all the latin law terms because I used the classical pronunciation.

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wutwutwut (Jan 7, 2019 - 6:54 pm)

Also no one pronounces the well-known quotes quote right.

Veni-vidi-vici is "waynie, weedie, weekie" (no "vee" sound, no "ch" sound).

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therewillbeblood (Jan 7, 2019 - 9:03 pm)

Yep. For Law Latin it's way off a lot of times.


pro hac vice -> PRO HOCK VEEKAY
caveat emptor -> CAH WEE AT EMPTOR
certiorari -> CARE TEE OH RAH RYE

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uknownvalue (Jan 7, 2019 - 7:00 pm)

Please don't pronounce Cicero as Kick-a-row - it is just too much.

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therewillbeblood (Jan 7, 2019 - 9:03 pm)

You have my permission to punch me in the face if I do that.

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wutwutwut (Jan 8, 2019 - 5:57 pm)

Yoolius Kaysar!

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dingbat (Jan 7, 2019 - 7:38 pm)

some more obscure language is far more useful than a language just about everyone speaks.

I remember talking to someone on the hiring committee at XYZ biglaw, who said they'd go deep down recruiting standards for someone who spoke mongolian - as they were just beginning to do a lot more business in Mongolia.

Likewise, there's a big advantage for someone who speaks Bantu or Bahasa, as there's a lot of business opportunities and very few speakers.

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themapmaster (Jan 8, 2019 - 1:45 pm)

I am learning Bahasa. Super hard to gain conversational proficiency in any language if you're not in the country where it is spoken.. almost requiring obsessiveness in studying. Bahasa is a good one because so few Westerners speak it as a second language and very rarely taught in the academy, yet Indonesia is one of the biggest countries in the world. The problem is the Indonesian economy suffers from massive government corruption and maladministration. I don't think any big mega law firms have a major presence in Indonesia and the country has a lot of lawlessness and funny business. The big mega law firms seem to be in Singapore or Hong Kong.

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isthisit (Jan 7, 2019 - 8:45 pm)

Depende a tu area de practica. Yo hablo espanol y practico la ley de Trump (Immigration).

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thecharmingmresq (Jan 7, 2019 - 10:26 pm)

I second the above. There are oceans of truly life-long bilingual Spanish speakers. Even if you get 95% fluent, you have a mountain of people better than you.
I’d go for something like Hmong or Arabic

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shitlawsf (Jan 8, 2019 - 10:16 am)

As an adult learner, you will never be competitive on your second language speaking ability alone with the legions of native speaker lawyers. This is especially true for Spanish.

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toooldtocare (Jan 8, 2019 - 12:18 pm)

Russian, so you can communicated more easily with Vlad and the boys. Big demand in the current administration.

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triplesix (Jan 8, 2019 - 4:56 pm)

This ain't pol, buddy

And what you said just ain't true.

There was a huge Russian demand under Obama administration with fcpa crack down. It's all but stopped now.

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toooldtocare (Jan 8, 2019 - 6:12 pm)

Sorry, buddy, but have to disagree. The proliferation of Russian lawyers-many of whom seem to end up getting indicted-isn't just limited to Trump's business dealings. It's a tough language, but if you've got the ability to learn it-I don't-there are jobs waiting. Much like China was 20 years ago, Russia is still seen as a potential business bonanza, waiting for American nohow to unlock it. That may not be the case, or may be wishful thinking, but there is plenty of money in Russia seeking investment out of that country, and the USA is very appealing. The problem is the dearth of lawyers who can run both the Russian and US legal gauntlets, and very few American trained Russian speaking lawyers.

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