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It's been awhile (last summer) since SSA/HHS/VA advertised h catwoman33302/18/19
It’s a great job-I am planning on staying long-term until hopelesslyunemployed02/18/19
Six figure job?? I've heard the AA (decision writer) jobs ty catwoman33302/18/19
They just issued a pay raise with the latest budget. Gs 12 hopelesslyunemployed02/18/19
Hmmmm…. According to the OPM website: "It normally takes catwoman33302/19/19
GS-12 in the DC area is already over $80k at step 1. After a downwardslope02/19/19
Love it. The flexibility and no stress nature of the job is jdthrowaway1202/18/19
Life is too short to spend the majority of your waking hours tedandlisa12302/19/19
Writing boilerplate unchallenging opinions equates to low st john0902/19/19
Of course, work "happiness" and "high stress" are entirely i catwoman33302/19/19
If I were an attorney at the Board of Veterans' Appeals or a john0902/19/19
I am at an SSA hearing office. Our production requirements h downwardslope02/20/19
I am not sure where you get the idea that we are supervised somefed02/20/19
What about the ridiculous production goals part, is that not john0902/20/19
It depends on who you ask. Some people are able to make it, somefed02/20/19
As opposed to what exactly? Unless you are making a living o mtbislife02/21/19
catwoman333 (Feb 18, 2019 - 12:08 pm)

It's been awhile (last summer) since SSA/HHS/VA advertised hiring in huge numbers.

For the "newbie" AAs who started last year, just wondering: 1) Do you like it so far? 2) Do you plan to remain long-term (at least a few years)?

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hopelesslyunemployed (Feb 18, 2019 - 5:02 pm)

It’s a great job-I am planning on staying long-term until retirement. Basically a six figure job with flexible schedule (can telework 3 or more days depending on office). Plus you get pension and loan forgiveness

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catwoman333 (Feb 18, 2019 - 6:40 pm)

Six figure job?? I've heard the AA (decision writer) jobs typically pay no more than GS 12. Perhaps you are referring to GS 12 + overtime? Or the few GS 13/14s (supvs., Sr. attys) advertised each year, filled mostly by internal applicants.

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hopelesslyunemployed (Feb 18, 2019 - 7:39 pm)

They just issued a pay raise with the latest budget. Gs 12 should top out at around 110k now (last step). Ot varies by office, but if you want it, you can tack on another 30 to 40 k onto your base pay fairly easily

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catwoman333 (Feb 19, 2019 - 1:16 pm)

Hmmmm…. According to the OPM website: "It normally takes 18 years to advance from step 1 to step 10 within a single GS grade if an employee remains in that single grade."

So, theoretically, I guess you are correct, assuming an employee works almost 20 years and/or works OT and/or 7 days a week EVERY week. LOL

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downwardslope (Feb 19, 2019 - 3:41 pm)

GS-12 in the DC area is already over $80k at step 1. After a couple of years, it is over $88k with the new raises. It does not take that much overtime to break $100k once you have been there 3-4 years.

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jdthrowaway12 (Feb 18, 2019 - 12:58 pm)

Love it. The flexibility and no stress nature of the job is incredible. You couldn't pay me enough to go back to a law firm. People complain about the job and I think they're crazy. I quite enjoy not getting fire drill emails from a partner on Sunday afternoon, thanks. I'm planning on staying as long as they'll have me.

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tedandlisa123 (Feb 19, 2019 - 2:31 pm)

Life is too short to spend the majority of your waking hours writing boilerplate, unchallenging opinions.

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john09 (Feb 19, 2019 - 2:54 pm)

Writing boilerplate unchallenging opinions equates to low stress and allows more time to enjoy a short life.

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catwoman333 (Feb 19, 2019 - 9:31 pm)

Of course, work "happiness" and "high stress" are entirely in the eye of the beholder, but I tend to agree with tedandlisa123.

The thought of spending months or years of short, fleeting life glued to a computer screen 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week (assuming pursuit of OT) while some (probably less experienced, qualified) GS 13/14 pressures you to review and churn out boring docs more quickly to meet ridiculous production goals sounds far too exciting, glamorous for my provincial little tastes.

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john09 (Feb 19, 2019 - 11:04 pm)

If I were an attorney at the Board of Veterans' Appeals or at a SSA hearing office, I would also hate the thought of spending months or years of short, fleeting life glued to a computer screen 10+ hours a day, 7 days a week (assuming pursuit of OT) while some (probably less experienced, qualified) GS 13/14 pressures you to review and churn out boring docs more quickly to meet ridiculous production goals. I banish the thought!

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downwardslope (Feb 20, 2019 - 9:29 am)

I am at an SSA hearing office. Our production requirements have to be met within the 40 hour workweek... My office is not an “easy” office by any means because we have free county care and voluminous medical records and also get lots of old, large cases from other offices. However, all of the writers on production in my office are making the quota or are very close to it.

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somefed (Feb 20, 2019 - 7:33 am)

I am not sure where you get the idea that we are supervised by GS 13 level employees. That is not the case at the Board.

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john09 (Feb 20, 2019 - 8:24 am)

What about the ridiculous production goals part, is that not the case at the Board?

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somefed (Feb 20, 2019 - 8:36 am)

It depends on who you ask. Some people are able to make it, while others struggle. The production goals are attainable for me.

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mtbislife (Feb 21, 2019 - 11:04 am)

As opposed to what exactly? Unless you are making a living off youtube or independently wealthy this is what most peoples lives look like.

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