Remembering TCPaul, 2016-2019

Man hits lawyer in courtroom

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/nat ional-international/Publi fettywap03/27/19
Deputies there to protect court staff but not officers of th triplesix03/28/19
"Why do they even bother with deputies when this happens?" legalace03/28/19
Says who? triplesix03/28/19
Pretty sure OP means that's it's pointless to have a deputy pauperesq03/28/19
When I go to criminal court, the people in orange jumpsuits fettywap03/28/19
She just got some street cred. jd4hire03/28/19
I think this was just a one in a million incident. It also s orange904/06/19
It also shows you how much they care about the safety of law catwoman33304/06/19
fettywap (Mar 27, 2019 - 6:48 pm)

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/national-international/Public-Defender-Punched-by-Suspect-in-Broward-Bond-Court-507722671.html

Why do they even bother with deputies when this happens?

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triplesix (Mar 28, 2019 - 10:33 am)

Deputies there to protect court staff but not officers of the court.

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legalace (Mar 28, 2019 - 12:06 pm)

"Why do they even bother with deputies when this happens?"

I don't understand what you mean.

"Deputies [are] there to protect court staff but not officers of the court."

The deputies are there to protect everyone.

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triplesix (Mar 28, 2019 - 12:18 pm)

Says who?

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pauperesq (Mar 28, 2019 - 1:01 pm)

Pretty sure OP means that's it's pointless to have a deputy in the room if an inmate isn't secured and can just walk up to anyone and crack them in the face.

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fettywap (Mar 28, 2019 - 1:16 pm)

When I go to criminal court, the people in orange jumpsuits are told to stay in their seats. Don't know why this guy is allowed to walk to the podium.

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jd4hire (Mar 28, 2019 - 5:03 pm)

She just got some street cred.

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orange9 (Apr 6, 2019 - 1:47 pm)

I think this was just a one in a million incident. It also shows you how much they care about the safety of lawyers.

If you look at the article, the incident was in one of those en masse video courtrooms where they have a public defender assigned to argue bail for all of the recently arrested people. I have never been in a jail where the inmates walked around with restraints, and would not expect them to restrain all of the recently arrested inmates for video court. Also, with video court, other than that public defender, there are no civilians and the judge is on a monitor. There is no risk to the public and no court staff there. The only people there are the guards and the public defender- shows you what they think of lawyers.

Like everyone else, anytime I have had a client in custody enter a courtroom, his hands have been restrained either to his waist or behind him, unless it is a trial. And with trials, the ankles usually remain shackled.

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catwoman333 (Apr 6, 2019 - 2:32 pm)

It also shows you how much they care about the safety of lawyers.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Many attys, judges deal with verbal abuse, threats, assault/battery, stalking, vandalism on a regular basis. And some have even been killed. See https://www.attorneyatwork.com/lawyer-safety-are-you-prepared.

First, PDs aren't in a position to cherry pick clients or decline cases. They are appointed by the court.

Second, we sadly live in a society where extreme verbal or physical violence are routinely pitched as "entertainment" or "politics as usual" in the media. Consequently, crudeness/violence in public--not just against lawyers--has become the socially-accepted norm. I have personally witnessed people openly engaged in vicious abuse of small children and other family members--kicking/hitting/shouting raw profanity--in public, then defending that sick behavior as "their family or parental rights to discipline".

Third, so many people hate lawyers nowadays. (The legal profession consistently rates below used car dealers, politicians, the media, and the IRS in popularity polls.) Clients always seem to blame us when their cases are lost because we are the closest, easiest targets.

Newly-minted lawyers should be issued bullet-proof vests and lifetime prescriptions of Prozac...:).

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