Remembering TCPaul, 2016-2019

Lateraled to biglaw, quit after 3 days!

I lateraled from a small-ish general litigation firm with a shikes04/07/19
There’s no vetting involved, all biglaw firms are like thi dingbat04/08/19
This is 3 star Michelin rated trolling. You other pr***s do wearyattorney04/07/19
Wouldn’t you have done the same? The writing was already o fuckyouracists04/07/19
Working in biglaw sucks but you get used to it. Not shikes b midlaw04/08/19
it's too soon to quit. should have waited at least six month whiteguyinchina04/08/19
Yeah, he was able to quit and still land in a job that paid toooldtocare04/08/19
If true, i give the OP lots of credit. They know what they w dopesmokeresquire04/08/19
Law is awful, including biglaw. It’s a rich kid’s game. wearyattorney04/08/19
Maybe, maybe not; as weary points out, this appears to be a toooldtocare04/08/19
I literally know no one that is happy in big law. Not one s wearyattorney04/08/19
I know a quite a few who are happy in biglaw. But the wutwutwut04/09/19
Umm...I'm not wasting time trolling message boards. Check my shikes04/08/19
Then more power to you; hope the new job works out. toooldtocare04/08/19
Ok, I could be mistaken. This is unusual, I truly wish you t wearyattorney04/08/19
You did the right thing. Good job, Op. Expecting you to walk fuckyouracists04/08/19
Not how you quit BIGLAW. You do great work on the most im superttthero04/08/19
If I didn't have another job lined up, I would have just sta shikes04/08/19
the less time you have, the easier it is to make dingbat04/08/19
When you are 26 it is great! You get paid well, you get paid demwave04/08/19
Big law pays you twice for the chance to work twice the hour ternarydaemon04/09/19
I have respect for anyone who had made it into Biglaw. It's parlance04/13/19

shikes (Apr 7, 2019 - 8:03 pm)

I lateraled from a small-ish general litigation firm with a high five figure salary to a biglaw firm. Doubled my salary. I worked 13 hours on my first day, and started seeing the writing on the wall almost by the end. Worked 14 hours the second day. On the third day I was getting cold-sweats and anxiety shakes throughout the day and threw up my hands, got up and left after 11 hours of work realizing this arrangement wasn't going to work in the long term. Contacted the managing partners next morning to resign. A lot of expletive-filled responses later, I'm out.

I've heard the horror stories before, but never thought it'd be THIS bad. I'm a hard worker, I don't mind longer hours within reason, but the sheer amount of deadlines, research, conference calls where multi-million dollar clients want answers to complex questions basically immediately, etc. was the definition of "insane." My phone/email went off literally every 6-7 mins with a new assignment or research project, all due end of day or early next morning. Every time I completed something, I had 3-4 new things that replaced it. After my 2nd day, I didn't sleep, drenched my bed in cold sweat and had my heartrate double throughout the night.

I wouldn't do that job for double the salary they paid me. Its not worth it. I think I may have lost a year of life expectancy from the 3 days alone. Had other offers from smaller firms I interviewed with lined up, took the one that was still pending immediately which pays slightly above what I made at last firm but 85k less than biglaw job. This is my PSA, vet your biglaw lateral firm EXTENSIVELY if you're thinking about making the jump. The money isn't worth it.

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dingbat (Apr 8, 2019 - 12:53 pm)

There’s no vetting involved, all biglaw firms are like this.

Did you actually think they’d pay you that much money because you’re a great attorney? They pay that much to have you available and grinding basically every waking minute.

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wearyattorney (Apr 7, 2019 - 8:44 pm)

This is 3 star Michelin rated trolling. You other pr***s don’t have s***t on this shikes character.

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fuckyouracists (Apr 7, 2019 - 9:49 pm)

Wouldn’t you have done the same? The writing was already on the wall.

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midlaw (Apr 8, 2019 - 1:08 am)

Working in biglaw sucks but you get used to it. Not shikes but most people are able to stick it out for a few years.

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whiteguyinchina (Apr 8, 2019 - 3:51 am)

it's too soon to quit. should have waited at least six months. not for any other reason but to really get the feel of the job. but whatever. we are not you.

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toooldtocare (Apr 8, 2019 - 10:42 am)

Yeah, he was able to quit and still land in a job that paid more than previous; how many people can do that? Most of us would take the biglaw job, hate it, but stick with it b/c had no other options.

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dopesmokeresquire (Apr 8, 2019 - 11:48 am)

If true, i give the OP lots of credit. They know what they want, and don't want and aren't going to stick around to see "if things change."

OP acted decisively and saved themsleves a nervous breakdown.

Waiting around, delaying action, basically waiting for godot is such s LOSER thing to do.

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wearyattorney (Apr 8, 2019 - 12:06 pm)

Law is awful, including biglaw. It’s a rich kid’s game. However, not even in biglaw do they start grinding you like that within 3 days. First day will likely be HR and tech matters. Second day more orientation. Third day you’ll meet who you are working with, etc.

Even at the most severe sweat shop, the mounting will likely not begin until the second week.

Also, if you quit any law firm for this type of reason within 3 days, and you are in an area that has a niche for biglaw, you will run into problems if you ever need to get another job again...

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toooldtocare (Apr 8, 2019 - 12:14 pm)

Maybe, maybe not; as weary points out, this appears to be a troll. But if not, and if you're like 99.9% of the world and have bills to pay-mortgage/car/student loans-you stick it out for several months, hoping it will get better and not wanting to get evicted/car repossesed, etc etc.
OP is in pretty unique situation, able to dump a job after three days and immediately land in another which is still better than job originally left behind. Must have some very specialized and sought-after skills.
So yeah, if you're insanely wealthy or in OP's position, you leave after three days. Otherwise..well, we aren't called "wage slaves" for nothing.

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wearyattorney (Apr 8, 2019 - 12:23 pm)

I literally know no one that is happy in big law. Not one single person. As much as I hate law schools and the people who staff them, I didn’t believe paid law school shills trolled the top law forum with disinfo to get lemmings in the net until I came across a thread with a dozen entries indicating how great biglaw was/is. Thats when I knew that law school dirtbags were not playing games about getting that federal cash.

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wutwutwut (Apr 9, 2019 - 2:45 pm)

I know a quite a few who are happy in biglaw.


But they're all partners.

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shikes (Apr 8, 2019 - 12:33 pm)

Umm...I'm not wasting time trolling message boards. Check my posting history if you'd like.

First day was indeed an "HR" day where I did a bunch of training while seeing my emails fill up and the file assignments multiply hourly. As my calendar started getting populated with events/deadlines, my eyes started popping. I was taking over for someone that left, so all of her assignments got dumped on me in addition to all the new cases.

I am indeed like 99% of the world in that I have loans/bills and don't really do anything specialized or niche, but I was interviewing with multiple firms of various sizes at the time so thankfully had some options. I also have a spouse that works and makes a decent salary and an emergency fund that could hold me for 3-4 months minimum.

I had seriously doubts if the workload was realistic in the morning of day two, by the end of day three I reviewed all that was being asked of me, looked over deadlines and tasks on calendar due 30 and 60 days ahead and realized this isn't for me. I think my toughest weeks at my old firm (~60-65 hours/week) would have been my easiest weeks in biglaw. Unfortunately I burned this bridge to the ground, and hopefully it doesn't come back to bite me, but I want to live a normal life.

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toooldtocare (Apr 8, 2019 - 12:35 pm)

Then more power to you; hope the new job works out.

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wearyattorney (Apr 8, 2019 - 1:12 pm)

Ok, I could be mistaken. This is unusual, I truly wish you the best. I hate this field more than anything except boomers. I hope you beat the system and this doesn’t hurt you.

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fuckyouracists (Apr 8, 2019 - 5:12 pm)

You did the right thing. Good job, Op. Expecting you to walk in and take over with that caseload that quickly is borderline malpractice imho. If you messed up they would have fired you without notice anyway so more power to you.

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superttthero (Apr 8, 2019 - 1:00 pm)

Not how you quit BIGLAW.

You do great work on the most important stuff, let other stuff slide and actually tell the people you cannot get to it.

They will either fire you in a few months with some severance or it will stabilize to something manageable.

Bad to quit almost any job with no prospects unless you had another job lined up to start right away.

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shikes (Apr 8, 2019 - 2:34 pm)

If I didn't have another job lined up, I would have just stayed and done subpar work, missed countless deadlines and collected checks until I got fired. I wouldn't have left with no plan/income unless I had something. Thankfully I did, but with that schedule I'm not sure how people who wanna leave even find time to interview.

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dingbat (Apr 8, 2019 - 4:29 pm)

the less time you have, the easier it is to make

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demwave (Apr 8, 2019 - 2:51 pm)

When you are 26 it is great! You get paid well, you get paid meals and cars home PLUS you have probably wasted and blew off a lot of time in LS and undergrad so you dont need more lounge time or doing nothing time. You feel important and productive.

However if you have actually made good money doing anything else you really realize how inane it all is!

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ternarydaemon (Apr 9, 2019 - 12:17 am)

Big law pays you twice for the chance to work twice the hours, all days.

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parlance (Apr 13, 2019 - 3:32 pm)

I have respect for anyone who had made it into Biglaw. It's not easy to get there and staying there is even harder. I know this much. It's not for me. The only thing remotely attractive about it is the money, but then you could say that about a lot of jobs. I need the balance of the weekend to take the edge off the nature of this job. If you're in this for the long haul, you need to pace yourself.

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