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NY to CA transition?

Does anyone have insights about this career move? Is it a bi nofaultkillself04/07/19
I am no expert, but I imagine it depends on your industry an whiteguyinchina04/08/19
Fair enough. Insurance defense, looking in LA and San Diego. nofaultkillself04/08/19
No personal experience with those locations, but my understa jd4hire04/08/19
I've only briefly visited both LA/SD but I know people who l catwoman33304/08/19
A friend did this move cross country, but he had several mon trijocker04/08/19
Great suggestion to visit before moving, but CA--like the re catwoman33304/08/19
Are you licensed in California? If so, why not look for a jo shitlawsf04/09/19
nofaultkillself (Apr 7, 2019 - 8:51 pm)

Does anyone have insights about this career move? Is it a big reset in terms of salary, apart from starting from scratch regarding your contacts and professional network?

Much appreciated.

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whiteguyinchina (Apr 8, 2019 - 6:03 am)

I am no expert, but I imagine it depends on your industry and experience. and CA is a big place.

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nofaultkillself (Apr 8, 2019 - 9:21 am)

Fair enough. Insurance defense, looking in LA and San Diego.

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jd4hire (Apr 8, 2019 - 9:40 am)

No personal experience with those locations, but my understanding is ID generally will pay what the market will bear for your specific area. I would think LA and San Diego would bear some of the highest ID salaries in the country. Could be way off on that though. I'd imagine they are similar to, plus or minus a little, to NYC, Albany, Buffalo. Skill level and the individual firm will obviously dictate a lot on this.

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catwoman333 (Apr 8, 2019 - 1:14 pm)

I've only briefly visited both LA/SD but I know people who live there. SD population is 1.3 mill; LA is over 4 million. Biggest headaches for both LA and SD: bad traffic (LA is far worse), high cost of living (primarily housing), air pollution (usually forest fire smoke and LA is prone to mudslides/floods), gang violence/property theft/shootings. Upsides: great restaurants, museums/art galleries, theaters, etc, proximity to ocean and mountains.

LA feels to me like an endless sea of traffic jams/urban sprawl/boring strip malls. SD is geographically confined, smaller scale, almost feels like a quaint little beach town in comparison. Also, IMO the beaches in or near SD--esp. La Jolla--are superior to anything you will ever find in or near LA. (Google search both cities and you will see the stark geographic scale contrast.) Also, if I had I had children, I would think twice about allowing them to attend LA public schools. Too dangerous/substandard.

In addition to reading blog comments, I recommend that anyone considering relocation to any city explore YouTube comments from local residents and also check out online newspapers for daily coverage of local issues. You can often find videos of weather, traffic, etc. along with comments and suggestions for new residents. IMO you can get a much more vivid feel of a place (good and bad) on YouTube. As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words.

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trijocker (Apr 8, 2019 - 1:43 pm)

A friend did this move cross country, but he had several months living expenses saved up.
Could you send out resumes before you move out?
My suggestion would be that you fly in and take the CA bar and pass it, before you move out here.
Otherwise, your job options will be limited, and it might be tough to live on a clerk or paralegal type salary, until you are admitted to the CA Bar. You'd have more options in the L.A. area, SD is beautiful, but already has three law schools spewing out JDS for a smaller job market.

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catwoman333 (Apr 8, 2019 - 1:51 pm)

Great suggestion to visit before moving, but CA--like the rest of the USA--is way oversaturated with attys--not just new ones--period. There are over 20 law schools in CA alone, over 200 LSs in the USA, and more than 40% of people with JDs never even practice law.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-law_school_employment_in_the_United_States

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shitlawsf (Apr 9, 2019 - 12:07 pm)

Are you licensed in California? If so, why not look for a job from New York? In large metropolitan areas, hiring cross-country is not unheard of if you have a good resume and track record where you're coming from.

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