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Sick of being an attorney (today)

It changes from day to day. I thought about actually trackin dopesmokeresquire05/14/19
If you don't want to be pulled down by your surroundings, do taxamnesty05/14/19
I think tracking "don't suck" vs. "do suck" days on the cale palmtree1905/14/19
Today does NOT suck. I was a ADA/PD for 5.5 years. Hated dopesmokeresquire05/15/19
Is it the lawyering that sucks or the clients/cases that suc 2tierreality05/15/19
SO what do you do? Give up your practice and move into an of orgdonor05/15/19
I've concluded I am unemployable. It's a zero sum game f dopesmokeresquire05/15/19
You're wise to know yourself. Placating egos seems to sap yo orgdonor05/16/19
"Placating egos seems to sap your joie de vivre". Well s dopesmokeresquire05/16/19
dopesmokeresquire (May 14, 2019 - 11:48 am)

It changes from day to day. I thought about actually tracking days on a calendar to see how the days that suck balance out the days that don't suck. Get some data on this.

Possible other options: insurance adjustor, govt practice, gas station clerk. the ONLY thing that gives me pause is working in an office with lousy, bitter, backstabbing co-workers and not able to control my schedule.

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taxamnesty (May 14, 2019 - 12:09 pm)

If you don't want to be pulled down by your surroundings, don't get into the crab bucket.

Being independently wealthy is the credited way to live imho

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palmtree19 (May 14, 2019 - 11:57 pm)

I think tracking "don't suck" vs. "do suck" days on the calendar is the best metric to compare jobs. I haven't tracked my days, but there's nothing better than a good excel spreadsheet with relevant data to guide one's decision making. Also, low suckiness >>> $ every time.

In my case, I pretty much know what the spreadsheet is going to say. It's to the point where my job sucks ~4 days per week and the stress and hours often bleed into my weekends with my young family. With my commute, I'm averaging 11.5 hour days during the work week. I'm an ADA/PD, so it's constant litigation and trial prep. I kept getting promoted, so now it's serious litigation that I need to worry about all the time. Don't think I'm a baller, though -- I make $20K/year more than the assistant manager at the gas station near my house.

I don't think I'm overly-dramatic and I try hard and am generally pretty good at stuff, so I think the problem is with the job and not me having unreasonable expectations from an employment arrangement. It's tough convincing myself of this, though, because all the lawyers I work with are at least as unbalanced as I am, and most went K-JD and don't know any better.

And there's no one trying to hire us away who would offer better working conditions or pay. Worse, almost every private lawyer in our jurisdiction applied for an opening in our office recently.

It sounds like you're a solo. I often daydream about working for myself and not having lousy co-workers. But really good co-workers are awesome.

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dopesmokeresquire (May 15, 2019 - 1:42 pm)

Today does NOT suck.

I was a ADA/PD for 5.5 years. Hated the office Politik. My co-workers were MEH, and most would do or say anything to avoid getting in trouble. Spineless, but I don't blame anyone for that. I just don't wanna be around it. I daydreamed A LOT about self employement.

Today is awesome to be self employed. I won a trial, made a lot of money and client is happy. And no spineless co-workers.

I'll post the results of my tracking in about a month.

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2tierreality (May 15, 2019 - 8:57 am)

Is it the lawyering that sucks or the clients/cases that suck? If it's the clients/cases that suck, can you make a conscious effort to cull (or stop taking) the crummy ones and see if that makes a difference?

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orgdonor (May 15, 2019 - 9:59 am)

SO what do you do? Give up your practice and move into an office environment where you aren't set up to succeed? Never underestimate how much less efficiently five people can do the job of one.

Red tape and nonsense. Odd comments and break room politics. At least I don't have to deal with anyone else's crap.

There's no winning in the middle class.

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dopesmokeresquire (May 15, 2019 - 1:44 pm)

I've concluded I am unemployable.

It's a zero sum game for me: if i stay in LAW, it will have to be on my own terms working for myself. I can't imagine someone telling me how to run a case. Or office politik mucky muck.

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orgdonor (May 16, 2019 - 10:38 am)

You're wise to know yourself. Placating egos seems to sap your joie de vivre. And that's what soft handed white collar work is -- on one level or another.

I'm struggling with midlife malaise myself. This is it. These kids. This job. Maybe a ten day vacation, "somewhere easy," a great night out with an old friend, some fancy treat: a cigar or a cake.

Slowly the tension slips from my arms, the flesh moves differently now. What few women ever noticed me, won't notice me now. Hair in new places. And the nose needs trimming more and more often.

Walking the same streets to the same desk to look at the same screen for hours just like the weeks and months before. Eating in the same restaurants, and taking my coffee as I always do. Haven't even changed my haircut in the last ten years. Always the same barber for that matter.

But haven't people lived like this for centuries in their little towns? Not as well. The difference is that they didn't toil as lonely as lawyers do. The clients see only their own case. The judges want to see the cases disposed. Counsel for the defendant wants the case dismissed. The kids don't get it. No one gets it. You're one soldier alone on the battlefield waiting for the war to end. Or maybe waiting for it to begin. Lawyering without passion is unbearable.

Somehow, I hope you find some cases that grab your interest. That's our saving grace: the practice of law can be very interesting. More interesting than corporate culture or moving up the hierarchy. Because there is a real opportunity for insight into human nature. To understanding persuasion, decision making, argument, nuance.

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dopesmokeresquire (May 16, 2019 - 12:49 pm)

"Placating egos seems to sap your joie de vivre".

Well said. Another euphemism is "just going along to get along" or "roll with the punches". Or "being a team player". Again, all fine, but I don't want that in my life anymore. I had my fill in the PD's office. And I'm willing to put up with the headaches of self employment (well, at least for the forseeable future).

I don't discount some disaster striking that would make my current set up unbearable. Cancer, malpractice suit, nightmare employee. Any of that would make it so much easier to get to South of Rte 13.

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