Remembering TCPaul, 2016-2019

Plumber, guess the color of my truck.

Hint: you'll like it, I promise. bangbus08/24/18
Another hint: my truck was born in America bangbus08/24/18
"Hint: you'll like it, I promise. Another hint: my truck was plumber08/24/18
Wrong! The color, as described by the manufacture, is SUP bangbus08/24/18
Haha superttthero08/24/18
Has Chevy moved their truck production to Mexico yet? My lea plumber02/12/19
I don't understand any of this. Like why is it a big deal to theimmigrant02/12/19
We’ll see. It has been a darn good vehicle. It will have o plumber02/12/19
Why do you care so much about Tires? Again with the Tires. T theimmigrant02/12/19
Agreed. Have you ever tried to purchase a car you have lease plumber02/12/19
What expensive maintenance? How is it more expensive than a gladigotaphdinstead02/12/19
Not trying to be a dick but is this some sort of prole wisdo theimmigrant02/13/19
I am probably the most prole of all posters who post here. plumber02/13/19
You're lucky this is /ot. —TI theimmigrant02/13/19
Yeah Plumber, but I still don't get leasing one versus just wutwutwut02/13/19
I think if you were to break it down over time and add up a plumber02/13/19
No, it can’t. Everyone knows it is far more expensive to l gladigotaphdinstead02/14/19
I disagree that everyone knows.. Otherwise, there would not plumber02/14/19
If you're not the LEAD DOG, the scenery never changes My F trijocker02/12/19
F150 doesnt even come in manual. Besides, the f150 depreciat bangbus02/12/19
Every brand new vehicle depreciates like a mother That's wh trijocker02/12/19
Sounds like a great vehicle for a soccer mom bangbus02/12/19
Do you ever see soccer moms driving a F 150? Go stick with trijocker02/12/19
"Do you ever see soccer moms driving a F 150?" I'm conver bangbus02/12/19
Pic? bigwags02/12/19
Or I'm conversing with one, you know nothing about trucks trijocker02/13/19
That's nice dear. Don't forget to pick up the kids bangbus02/14/19
Trucks are terrible for the environment. Hugh global warmi imoothereforeim02/12/19
Amazing that you cucumbers* all start clucking again because wutwutwut02/12/19
"I can bet my https://ultimateplumbinginc.com/cha rlotte-plum bangbus02/13/19



bangbus (Aug 24, 2018 - 1:03 am)

Hint: you'll like it, I promise.

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bangbus (Aug 24, 2018 - 1:16 am)

Another hint: my truck was born in America

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plumber (Aug 24, 2018 - 8:24 am)

"Hint: you'll like it, I promise. Another hint: my truck was born in America"

I like blue Chevy's.

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bangbus (Aug 24, 2018 - 10:15 am)

Wrong!

The color, as described by the manufacture, is SUPER WHITE!

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superttthero (Aug 24, 2018 - 10:16 am)

Haha

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plumber (Feb 12, 2019 - 8:24 am)

Has Chevy moved their truck production to Mexico yet? My lease is up next year on our Chevy Equinox. They made the new Equinox smaller and crappier looking than the 2017 model I currently drive. The Equinox I currently drive has been great. It has about 36,000 miles on it, and I haven't needed to replace the brakes or tires. I thought about getting a new Chevy Blazer, but I read that they are 100% made in Mexico. Maybe we will get a Ford Bronco if they are out then.

Speaking of pickup trucks, my brother bought a 2018 Ram Heavy Duty Longhorn Ram Rodeo Edition. We took it deer hunting with our father one weekend in December. We had to drive home in a snowstorm, but that truck handled the unplowed roads like a champ.

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theimmigrant (Feb 12, 2019 - 8:17 pm)

I don't understand any of this. Like why is it a big deal to not replace the brakes/tires after 36k? That almost has nothing to do with the Car itself at all...Why not buy it at the end of the lease if it's so amazing for you? It's literally a 2017.
Also, the Mexico thing, just forget about it, the genie is out of the bottle. At least it's Engineered by Engineers in Michigan.

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plumber (Feb 12, 2019 - 10:04 pm)

We’ll see. It has been a darn good vehicle. It will have over 50k on it, be close to needing new tires and most of the time you can get a better deal on something else than you would get from buying the car you are driving at the end of its lease term.

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theimmigrant (Feb 12, 2019 - 10:07 pm)

Why do you care so much about Tires? Again with the Tires. The cheapest option is to minimise the number of Cars you buy, always, imho.

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plumber (Feb 12, 2019 - 10:25 pm)

Agreed. Have you ever tried to purchase a car you have leased, though? For some reason, the entity which owns the car typically assumes you will pay top dollar because you are attached to the vehicle.

With regard to tires, a full set costs a grand. The factory tires on our Chevy are rated for 60,000 miles. Part of the appeal of leasing a vehicle is to not have to pay for expensive car ownership maintenance and repairs, which are inevitable at the end of three years.

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gladigotaphdinstead (Feb 12, 2019 - 11:39 pm)

What expensive maintenance? How is it more expensive than a new friggin car? Lol. I’ve spent less than $1000/year on upkeeps and repairs and have a German car since warranty expired.

60,000 mile tires suck, FYI.

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theimmigrant (Feb 13, 2019 - 6:59 am)

Not trying to be a dick but is this some sort of prole wisdom? Like you're just pretending its the 60s and you expect a car to only last 50k miles, plus you buy American because that's just what you do?
Just so you know, "regular" tires on Normal cars are still like $500 or less. These SUVs they have now have massive wheel wells which they fill with 17+" wheels for aesthetic reasons are what cost $1k or more. Cheap all-seasons for ~15" wheels cost a fraction of $1k.

Also, there is no advantage to Leasing. That's why they call it Leasing. Idk if you make $800k but most /ot bros make $120k and I don't want you spending $170k per decade on Cars if it can be avoided, even if we disagree politically (I am a Liberal).

Also in case you didn't realise this, you could get a Ford Focus hatch and it would have almost the same amount of room, Tires would cost nothing, brakes would last forever because it's light, etc, and the purchase price is nothing because Wives want SUVs.

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plumber (Feb 13, 2019 - 8:40 am)

I am probably the most prole of all posters who post here.

There is no advantage to leasing, but I have a certain reasoning for it. Here me out. We lease one vehicle and own the other. We put most of the miles on the leased vehicle and drive the one we own until it begins to need a repair which costs more than its used car value. When the one we own begins to exhibit a serious problem, it is time to shop around, and we still always have a dependable newer vehicle (the leased vehicle) for which to cart the family around.

The last couple of vehicles we owned were driven until they were about nine or 10 years old. I have a friend who owns a local mechanic shop whom I trust not to hose us with the cost of repairs.

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theimmigrant (Feb 13, 2019 - 9:26 pm)

You're lucky this is /ot.
—TI

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wutwutwut (Feb 13, 2019 - 10:15 pm)

Yeah Plumber, but I still don't get leasing one versus just having 2 owned vehicles that are age staggered?

I'm driving an 11 year old minivan which I never really liked a whole lot, but I bought it and it's a Honda Odyssey which is apparently never going to break down.

Meanwhile, my wife is driving an 8 year old Expedition which also has never had any issues other than some liftgate and window recalls which were fixed for free.

We bought these 2 cars 11 and 8 years ago, respectively. Before that, we had a 1996 minivan (which I loved) and a 1998 Explorer that each of us drove for well over 10 years each.

Leasing just seems like throwing away money. Note in the case of the current cars, at both of those times, supply of 2-3 year old used cars was tight enough that buying new made financial sense.

Edit to add: I guess we've been lucky that none of our vehicles has cost us much, even as they age. I should recognize that this is not always the case once cars pass their factory warranty.

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plumber (Feb 13, 2019 - 11:49 pm)

I think if you were to break it down over time and add up all the costs, it can be almost just as economical to lease versus own. I like the fact that the monthly payments are lower and you have at least one new car that is likely always going to be still under warranty.

It’s sort of like the question of whether it is better to pay for your snow removal by the time or for the whole season. There are pluses and minuses to each method.

I don’t know what kind of miles you have on your 11 year old car, but if I were you guys right now I would be shopping around to replace it. If something goes on it all of a sudden you won’t be able to get anything for it and you won’t have time to shop around and be in the drivers seat so to speak when it comes to dickering around on a new vehicle. Then, all of a sudden something goes on the 8 year old car at the same time and you are really desperate/screwed.

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gladigotaphdinstead (Feb 14, 2019 - 7:19 am)

No, it can’t. Everyone knows it is far more expensive to lease than own a car as long as you keep it for over 5 years.

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plumber (Feb 14, 2019 - 9:00 am)

I disagree that everyone knows.. Otherwise, there would not be so many people leasing!

It depends on a lot of things including how long you are going to keep your vehicle, how many miles you intend to put on it and ultimately what kind of repairs you end up needing (which no one can predict). You also have to factor in what the depreciation value is likely to be of a certain vehicle. If you are a working stiff like me, you can certainly get a more expensive new vehicle by leasing vs. buying. If you are a rich guy who wants to save his Benjamins, you might be better off leasing a luxury vehicle that will depreciate significantly over 8-10 years. Richie Nouveau Rich doesn't want to be seen in a five year old vehicle anyway.

I think there are pluses and minuses to both leasing and financing.. so I do both.

Ymmv.

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trijocker (Feb 12, 2019 - 9:43 am)

If you're not the LEAD DOG, the scenery never changes
My F 150 RULES over every other truck on the road

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bangbus (Feb 12, 2019 - 10:19 am)

F150 doesnt even come in manual. Besides, the f150 depreciates faster than a single mother with 4 kids to 3 different dads. Market does not agree with your assessment.

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trijocker (Feb 12, 2019 - 10:33 am)

Every brand new vehicle depreciates like a mother
That's why I got my F 150 used, one owner.
Lots of crybabies turn their vehicles in after a couple thousand miles when they get tired of it.
Best truck I ever had btw, and the best seller in the nation.

WTF do you want a manual for anyways? My other vehicles are stick, and I get tired of sitting in stop and go traffic putting the clutch in and out for two hours each way. Go Automatic!

At least my Ford is made in the United States, not Mexico.

There are some with stick shifts, but old
https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/lp/search-Ford-F-150-manual-sc2_d337

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bangbus (Feb 12, 2019 - 12:41 pm)

Sounds like a great vehicle for a soccer mom

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trijocker (Feb 12, 2019 - 12:46 pm)

Do you ever see soccer moms driving a F 150?
Go stick with your quality Mexican made vehicles.

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bangbus (Feb 12, 2019 - 1:02 pm)

"Do you ever see soccer moms driving a F 150?"

I'm conversing with one right now.

Haha

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bigwags (Feb 12, 2019 - 1:04 pm)

Pic?

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trijocker (Feb 13, 2019 - 9:22 am)

Or I'm conversing with one, you know nothing about trucks

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bangbus (Feb 14, 2019 - 12:09 pm)

That's nice dear.

Don't forget to pick up the kids

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imoothereforeim (Feb 12, 2019 - 9:08 pm)

Trucks are terrible for the environment. Hugh global warming gas emitter. Please change to a Prius.

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bangbus (Feb 13, 2019 - 12:56 am)

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