Remembering TCPaul, 2016-2019

Warren sucks

Not because why Trump thinks. She sucks because she had a superttthero10/15/18
Nah, she’s ok. midlaw10/15/18
I like her, but she tends to sound like she's lecturing whic therewillbeblood10/15/18
She also supported President Trump when the MSM was initiall plumber10/15/18
try using that Pocahontas sh!t on her if she runs cause we c backfromthedead10/15/18
Pocahontas is a bigger fraud than Christine Floozy Ford gazoo10/15/18
Hillary had it all sewed-up early on by way of the party's s jeffm10/15/18
They have. jorgedeclaro10/15/18
I didn't know. Good for them. It was rigged before. jeffm10/15/18
What's the voting method that would have given Sanders the w whatnext01/02/19
Just saw this. You are a liar. I remember us discussing this frida201/02/19
Really? Not that I'm a registered D, but I don't think the c bittersweet10/15/18
https://twitter.com/GarbageHuman_GH /status/10523407695398625 gazoo10/16/18
I think George Costanza directed Elizabeth Warren’s announ jorgedeclaro01/02/19
"Oh, hello, I didn't see you there." whatnext01/02/19
She won’t last long... soiled_nappies01/02/19
Anyone see her live stream drinking beer? AOC is “cool” irishlaw01/02/19
dbl post superttthero01/02/19
I don't follow AOC so I have no clue what you're talking abo superttthero01/02/19
Are people really going to take bullets for this woman for t persius01/02/19
you can gauge how well a Dem candidate is gonna do by how vo backfromthedead01/02/19
By this measure, Maxine Waters is the leading Dem candidate. drewprocess01/02/19
This is demonstratively untrue. Trump and Fox News were more jorgedeclaro01/02/19
I think the Democrat candidate will be some one who isn't a limeysolicitor01/02/19
Mayor Mitch from NO more likely than Edwards. Jay Inslee whatnext01/02/19
Solo personal injury attorney from the middle of nowhere tur jorgedeclaro01/02/19
Hey-he just went into politics as a "JD-advantage" job. toooldtocare01/02/19
I don't have an issue with her. I judge people more for the theimmigrant01/02/19
"George Conway on Trump's Gas Prices Boast: 'You’ve Figure backfromthedead01/02/19
what's the over/under for how long he and Kellyanne stay mar toooldtocare01/02/19
She's not one of my favorites for some reason, but I got not frida201/02/19
Its unbecoming to continue to blame Russians and "Bernie bro anotherjd01/02/19
It's so awesome that we get to choose candidates every four frida201/02/19
Until you lose the Electoral College then you'll whine about anotherjd01/02/19
No, I very much appreciate American democracy. We are a coup frida201/02/19
we'll see what your precious electoral college gotta say in backfromthedead01/03/19
That could happen. If it did I wouldn't cry about it or bla anotherjd01/03/19
She’s a lock. At this point, how can the Democrats not nom brokelawyer01/02/19
Not so sure; the last couple of Massachusetts democrats nomi toooldtocare01/02/19
There will be many, many candidates. No one is a lock. The l frida201/02/19
Well, I agree generally, but there's always a chance-a good toooldtocare01/02/19
I think Bernie is the only person who stands a chance of not jorgedeclaro01/02/19
I don't think Bernie will run. I think he'll back someone ea superttthero01/02/19
I think he will. I think he sees this as the time to strike jorgedeclaro01/02/19
Yeah. ok. superttthero01/03/19
He'll run; he thinks, with a great deal of justification, th toooldtocare01/03/19
If the blacks and Hispanics didn’t vote for Hillary then t brokelawyer01/03/19
You act as if Trump won by a landslide. The race was muc superttthero01/03/19
Trumpklumpfs don't wanna hear don't wanna know -- in their m backfromthedead01/03/19
All good points. It was close. Plus, Hillary had a LOT of ba brokelawyer01/03/19
"(2) the fact that the 2018 “Blue Wave” never materializ whatnext01/03/19
there were a lot of people who while they would have preferr johnsmith01/03/19
Well, Trump has delivered to his base, which is solid. Sure toooldtocare01/03/19
the base is not enough to get him reelected. If only his fir johnsmith01/03/19
The base is enough to get him elected if the democrats nomin toooldtocare01/03/19
Bernie's TOAST. NYT just published a damning, extensive a catwoman33301/03/19
Not bad jorgedeclaro01/03/19
but does she swallow? cocolawyer01/03/19
First democratic primary debates are scheduled for June 2019 jorgedeclaro01/07/19



superttthero (Oct 15, 2018 - 12:01 pm)

Not because why Trump thinks.

She sucks because she had a chance to back Bernie, someone who's platform was very close to her own (particularly in the pro-consumer stances), but instead she hedged her bets, waited until the issue was decided, and then backed the worst candidate the Democrats could have put up.

She could have altered the balance in favor of Bernie, instead she betrayed her own ideals to back a corporist shill like Hillary.

Eff Warren.

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midlaw (Oct 15, 2018 - 12:15 pm)

Nah, she’s ok.

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therewillbeblood (Oct 15, 2018 - 12:38 pm)

I like her, but she tends to sound like she's lecturing which kind of drives voters away, especially easily-triggered men like some of the people here. Honestly I don't think her endorsement would have put Bernie over the top, he was too behind generally. Also not sure if Bernie would have won, there was a lot of really damaging oppo research on him, and the Russians would have been working overtime against him as well.

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plumber (Oct 15, 2018 - 12:45 pm)

She also supported President Trump when the MSM was initially trying to push him.. in order to allow Hillary an easy candidate to beat. When it looked like Trump might be viable, she quickly started to attack him. Hence the Indian giver / Pocahontas attacks by Trump.

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backfromthedead (Oct 15, 2018 - 1:28 pm)

try using that Pocahontas sh!t on her if she runs cause we can already write off stupid Trumpklumpfs right off the bat, everybody else already knows stone cold how the Trumpador operates, yeah do it

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gazoo (Oct 15, 2018 - 2:28 pm)

Pocahontas is a bigger fraud than Christine Floozy Ford

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jeffm (Oct 15, 2018 - 2:34 pm)

Hillary had it all sewed-up early on by way of the party's superdelegates. You Dems need to change the party's rules for selecting a candidate.

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jorgedeclaro (Oct 15, 2018 - 5:01 pm)

They have.

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jeffm (Oct 15, 2018 - 5:05 pm)

I didn't know. Good for them. It was rigged before.

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whatnext (Jan 2, 2019 - 12:20 pm)

What's the voting method that would have given Sanders the win absent superdelegates? I'm not aware of one that exists.

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frida2 (Jan 2, 2019 - 8:16 pm)

Just saw this. You are a liar. I remember us discussing this in a long thread. You are well aware, based on our discussion in the other thread, that the Democratic party got rid of superdelegates and that Hillary won the primary by almost 4 million votes. Stop repeating Russian propaganda.

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bittersweet (Oct 15, 2018 - 4:35 pm)

Really? Not that I'm a registered D, but I don't think the choice the Republicans gave us was a better option.

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gazoo (Oct 16, 2018 - 8:29 pm)

https://twitter.com/GarbageHuman_GH/status/1052340769539862528?s=19

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jorgedeclaro (Jan 2, 2019 - 12:13 pm)

I think George Costanza directed Elizabeth Warren’s announcement video. “The kitchen is the most sociable room in the house.” I’m surprised she wasn’t eating an apple to make herself seem more casual.

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whatnext (Jan 2, 2019 - 12:19 pm)

"Oh, hello, I didn't see you there."

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soiled_nappies (Jan 2, 2019 - 12:25 pm)

She won’t last long...

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irishlaw (Jan 2, 2019 - 12:42 pm)

Anyone see her live stream drinking beer? AOC is “cool” when she live streams eating her poor food but EW just comes of as sad and trying way to hard.

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superttthero (Jan 2, 2019 - 12:48 pm)

dbl post

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superttthero (Jan 2, 2019 - 12:48 pm)

I don't follow AOC so I have no clue what you're talking about with the food event, but I think it's the delivery. No one would call out Warren if she went out to the Sam Adams brewery to meet with the people there, kiss babies, and have a bottle. Also, if her New Year's message was her sitting at a dinner table with a bottle of wine, or hell, even a beer I say, no one would have said anything.

It was the pre-scripted, intentional stop to try to be an ol' chum that failed. Maybe AOC is also eating rice and beans (or whatever it was in the livestream) as a choreographed moment, but I'll believe she eats that normally and I also bet her delivery of that staged moment was better.

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persius (Jan 2, 2019 - 2:12 pm)

Are people really going to take bullets for this woman for the next two years?

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backfromthedead (Jan 2, 2019 - 2:36 pm)

you can gauge how well a Dem candidate is gonna do by how vocal, shrill and hysterical Trump, Fox News and Trumpklumpfs get about 'em, that will be the badge of honor indicating "street creds" which will be necessary for the ensuing dirtiest political presidential campaign in US history -- Putin's GOP "engaged" endorsement / tipping of the scales will just be an annoyance this time

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drewprocess (Jan 2, 2019 - 3:12 pm)

By this measure, Maxine Waters is the leading Dem candidate.

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jorgedeclaro (Jan 2, 2019 - 3:16 pm)

This is demonstratively untrue. Trump and Fox News were more “vocal, hysterical and shrill” about Hillary Clinton more than anyone. She did not do better than other democratic candidates would have done.

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limeysolicitor (Jan 2, 2019 - 4:29 pm)

I think the Democrat candidate will be some one who isn't a front runner at the moment. How about John Bel Edwards from Louisiana?

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whatnext (Jan 2, 2019 - 4:44 pm)

Mayor Mitch from NO more likely than Edwards.

Jay Inslee threw his hat in the ring today, a campaign centered around climate change.

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jorgedeclaro (Jan 2, 2019 - 5:12 pm)

Solo personal injury attorney from the middle of nowhere turned governor turned self-taught environmental expert. Pass. Hard pass.

Edit: Good God, he couldn’t even get environmental legislation passed in deep blue Washington. He thinks he can run a presidential campaign based on climate change? Talk about trying to fail upward.

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toooldtocare (Jan 2, 2019 - 8:18 pm)

Hey-he just went into politics as a "JD-advantage" job.

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theimmigrant (Jan 2, 2019 - 4:45 pm)

I don't have an issue with her. I judge people more for the content of their character than anything else, which puts me at odds with OP.

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backfromthedead (Jan 2, 2019 - 4:49 pm)

"George Conway on Trump's Gas Prices Boast: 'You’ve Figured Out How to Turn Lies Into a Renewable Source of Energy?'"
is this guy a Dem? he sure talks like one -- if so running him as a candidate would be straight out of Trump's bed wetting nightmares, considering how much pillow talk he's heard
https://www.newsweek.com/george-conway-donald-trump-kellyanne-conway-gas-oil-petroleum-1276916

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toooldtocare (Jan 2, 2019 - 8:11 pm)

what's the over/under for how long he and Kellyanne stay married?

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frida2 (Jan 2, 2019 - 5:16 pm)

She's not one of my favorites for some reason, but I got nothing against her.

I'm so glad the Democratic party got rid of superdelegates, because they are unfair, and also because I never want to hear someone blame their candidate's loss on superdelegates, ever, ever again. You don't have a scapegoat anymore if your preferred candidate loses the primary.

I'm looking forward to a long primary. California votes in the first super Tuesday, in March, and will have a real impact. I'd like to keep the primary going for a while.

I like Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris, Beto O'Rourke, Eric Swalwell, maybe someone else? A woman, a minority, a young person, or some combination. I like Biden of course, but just wouldn't vote for him in the primary.

The funny thing about superdelegates, the bots and trolls on Twitter are still talking about them even though they are ancient history. The Russians will have to come up with something else that convinces the Bernie bros that something was unfair about the process.

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anotherjd (Jan 2, 2019 - 5:50 pm)

Its unbecoming to continue to blame Russians and "Bernie bros" for Hillary's loss. Bernie at least wasn't bought and paid for by Wall Street fat cats nor was he in favor of perpetual war like his opponent. Forgive the electorate if not all wanted to vote for the status quo.

Warren could tap into working class insecurity but will almost certainly opt for identity politics like the rest of her party.

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frida2 (Jan 2, 2019 - 7:25 pm)

It's so awesome that we get to choose candidates every four years, based on whatever criteria we want. I really love that about the USA. And it's so great that no one will blame superdelegates for their candidate losing by almost 4 million votes in the primary. It's so great that superdelegates are ancient history.

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anotherjd (Jan 2, 2019 - 9:50 pm)

Until you lose the Electoral College then you'll whine about that. Your appreciation of American democracy is contingent on your candidate winning. Trump beats Hillary and the left refuses to acknowledge that fact.

Just spare us the rap, lady.

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frida2 (Jan 2, 2019 - 10:56 pm)

No, I very much appreciate American democracy. We are a couple hours away from Speaker Pelosi and the most women ever in Congress.

Whenever you use the phrase "the left" you're losing.

"Until you lose the electoral college"? Been there done that. I'm way past 2016.

I love American democracy!

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backfromthedead (Jan 3, 2019 - 12:02 am)

we'll see what your precious electoral college gotta say in 2020 when the Dem candidate doubles Hillary's 3 million more votes than the Trumpazoid to 5-6 million, yeah let the electoral college try to override that but spare us the rap Trumpklumpf

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anotherjd (Jan 3, 2019 - 12:19 am)

That could happen. If it did I wouldn't cry about it or blame Bernie or the Russians. No matter who wins I'll hope they succeed.

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brokelawyer (Jan 2, 2019 - 7:35 pm)

She’s a lock. At this point, how can the Democrats not nominate a woman? The party’s motto for the last two years has been “the future is female.”

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toooldtocare (Jan 2, 2019 - 8:17 pm)

Not so sure; the last couple of Massachusetts democrats nominated for president didn't do so well. Maybe it's some sort of subliminal curse, but the phrase "Massachusetts liberal" always seems to stick, suggesting an out-of-touch elitist. Fair or not, that seems to be a killer with the electorate.

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frida2 (Jan 2, 2019 - 8:23 pm)

There will be many, many candidates. No one is a lock. The last poll I saw had Biden first, Beto O'Rourke 2nd, Bernie Saunders 3rd, and Amy Klobuchar 4th. I don't think Warren will be the nominee. But, the more the merrier! I want lots of candidates. The best part is no one will be whining about superdelegates.

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toooldtocare (Jan 2, 2019 - 9:13 pm)

Well, I agree generally, but there's always a chance-a good chance-the democrats will form their usual circular firing squad(cf. Bernie voters refusing to vote for Clinton on principal-or even more amazing, actively supporting Trump over Clinton-see Messing vs. Sarandon). CNN reported last week that Bernie supporters, fearing Beto above all others, are funding op-research to deflate Beto's candidacy. So yes, the chances of the circular firing squad ensuring a Trump second term are pretty high.

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jorgedeclaro (Jan 2, 2019 - 10:29 pm)

I think Bernie is the only person who stands a chance of not holding the line on playing nice. In 2008 the democratic candidates were immediately shamed by each other and the MSM if they tried to attack each other. I think that same pattern will hold in 2020. And I think Bernie is the only one who will buck the trend.

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superttthero (Jan 2, 2019 - 10:37 pm)

I don't think Bernie will run. I think he'll back someone early though.

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jorgedeclaro (Jan 2, 2019 - 10:45 pm)

I think he will. I think he sees this as the time to strike for national socialism after some forty-odd fruitless years.

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superttthero (Jan 3, 2019 - 12:05 am)

Yeah. ok.

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toooldtocare (Jan 3, 2019 - 9:23 am)

He'll run; he thinks, with a great deal of justification, that the democrat powerful stole his rightful nomination-from him and the "people", of course, not just Bernie-and he's like anybody else in that position-he's still mad. He also believes that he could have beaten Trump, a guy with whom he has no agreement on anything, including whether water is wet.
A bruised ego is a powerful thing; Bernie runs. And it appears to be something about being over 70, I guess. Right now, both Biden and Bloomberg are seriously considering a run-and both if elected would be closer to 80 than 70 on inauguration day.

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brokelawyer (Jan 3, 2019 - 11:46 am)

If the blacks and Hispanics didn’t vote for Hillary then there’s no way they’ll vote Bernie. Dems need to play to their base if they want the numbers.

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superttthero (Jan 3, 2019 - 12:19 pm)

You act as if Trump won by a landslide.

The race was much closer than the electoral college score reads, not because of the popular vote, but because of the margin where the so called blue wall fell.

If the devil shines on Shillary and that day rural areas had a bad storm, or if she runs a less arrogant campaign and finishes in the rust belt, all these smart sounding proclamations arent even uttered as she takes the presidency.

Mich - 10.7k/4m
Penn - 42k/6.1m
Wisc - 20k/3m

This isn't news, but people keep forgetting it and spout absolutes about the future.

With even a 25% of an Obama-like surge the Dems can't be beat, not by Trump folk. Without it, its merely competitive and almost a toss up. Also, I think a lot of these groups that stayed home for Hillary will come out for Bernie or Biden or whoever to oppose Trump.

That being said, I don't think he'll run (and hope he doesn't). I hope someone not in the current national stage comes forward.

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backfromthedead (Jan 3, 2019 - 12:34 pm)

Trumpklumpfs don't wanna hear don't wanna know -- in their minds (and Trump) they won by a landslide -ha

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brokelawyer (Jan 3, 2019 - 1:17 pm)

All good points. It was close. Plus, Hillary had a LOT of baggage. I think the two things Dems have to worry about now are: (1) the historic advantage enjoyed by incumbents, and (2) the fact that the 2018 “Blue Wave” never materialized, despite massive negative press for Trump.

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whatnext (Jan 3, 2019 - 1:23 pm)

"(2) the fact that the 2018 “Blue Wave” never materialized, despite massive negative press for Trump."

Wait, people are still going with this after all the votes were counted? Dems won the House by almost 10 million votes.

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johnsmith (Jan 3, 2019 - 1:34 pm)

there were a lot of people who while they would have preferred Hillary to trump, didn't actually like Hillary. Since the media was saying Hillary was going to win, these people thought it was safe to stay home and not vote. They wont make that mistake again.

Also, while trump has done a lot of things to piss people off, he hasn't done anything to gain new voters. People who held their nose and voted for a guy who they weren't thrilled with because he had an R after his name might not do so again.

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toooldtocare (Jan 3, 2019 - 2:04 pm)

Well, Trump has delivered to his base, which is solid. Sure he's an amoral guy, but Franklin Graham-and others of his ilk-have decided the ends do in fact justify the means, so if Trump continues to appoint the right SCOTUS justices, they'll be long and loud in support.
And the fight over "The Wall" is all about politics; Trump was ready to make a deal until the conservative caucus told him not so fast.
And the fight over the wall/the govt shutdown may play a very big role in 2020; a previous shutdown helped Bill Clinton a lot, but not sure to which party's benefit this shutdown accrues.
So Trump's base is solid; whether the democrat nominee can muster enough support and defeat an incumbent remains to be seen. The election is almost 2 years away, which is a long time in politics.

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johnsmith (Jan 3, 2019 - 2:13 pm)

the base is not enough to get him reelected. If only his fired up base votes for him, he will lose bigly.

The right SCOTUS judges who vote AGAINST hearing a case to defund planned parenthood? those SCOTUS judges? The same ones who will NOT overturn Roe? Lets see how long that keeps anyone excited.

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toooldtocare (Jan 3, 2019 - 4:53 pm)

The base is enough to get him elected if the democrats nominate another terrible candidate. For reasons no one can explain, incumbents get a bump in votes, deserved or not(cf. George Bush).
And sorry, Trump's base loves his two picks, and are eagerly awaiting his next. And his choices for federal judges down the line have met with approval, even though, in many cases, they are utterly unqualified. They get approved by the Senate anyway.
Everybody who voted for Trump in 2016 will vote for him again. It's up to the democrats to get a candidate to cobble together enought votes to win. And being close in some states in 2016 counts for nothing; look at the 2004 vs 2000 results. Kerry lost multiple states to Bush which had been "close" in 2000.

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catwoman333 (Jan 3, 2019 - 1:28 pm)

Bernie's TOAST.

NYT just published a damning, extensive article on him, noting MULTIPLE instances of sexual harassment and pay inequity by MULTIPLE staffers who didn't mind giving their name, speaking on the record. (Bernie all but confirmed it yesterday by issuing a stock, quasi-"apology" ("I was not aware, but I'm so sorry it happened and it won't happen again.") If that's not enough to shatter his delusions of 2020 grandeur, the fact that he ticked off most of his supporters in 2016 by quitting early and endorsing the HRC/Wall St. machine BEFORE the convention will...LOL

Eliz. Warren has the same problems, "baggage" as HRC and Obama, most notably hypocrisy. In public, she touts herself as a great champion of the working/middle class and opponent of "bought politics rigged to benefit the 1%. Yet, in private, she has a well-known history of chasing after Wall St./big bank support and $$ from the likes of Jamie Dimon and other big bank/corp. CEOs to fund her and other Dems' campaigns.

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jorgedeclaro (Jan 3, 2019 - 2:22 pm)

Not bad



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cocolawyer (Jan 3, 2019 - 7:36 pm)

but does she swallow?

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jorgedeclaro (Jan 7, 2019 - 2:00 pm)

First democratic primary debates are scheduled for June 2019. That would probably mean all serious candidates will have to announce by March or maybe April.

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